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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. LAdiablo

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    your outrage would have been welcome in the previous 8 years of "transparent" administration
    sort of makes your whole speculation (which is exactly what it is) a little bit hard to swallow
    and i'm looking through rose tinted glasses
    go ahead all i do is listen to fox news and i do anything trump says right?
    what i THINK was going on has nothing to do w anything factual
    i DO know without a doubt hillary sold off a major portion of our uranium to the russians but funny i don't recall ANY outrage over that
    and what about the billions of our dollars landing on pallets in iran in the middle of the night?
    lynch and billy meeting on a random tarmac to discuss their grandchildren
    THOSE MY FRIEND ARE FACTS
    thats just the start of the bullshit thats been taking place i could go on for days
    and if you think the GOP is on trumps side you haven't been paying attention
    the guy is getting it from all sides
    i don't like a lot of what he does and hardly consider him a panacea
    but after the raping and pillaging that went unchecked i find your argument laughable
    yeah i know the democrats are cloaked in white because they really care gmafb
     
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    Presenting these very same points to a lib friend I know had this to say: "
    The uranium deal was merely international business...goes on all the time.
    The money to the Iranians? It was their money.
    How can you prove it wasn't just friendly chit chat between Clinton and Lynch?"
    Swear to gawd...and come back at the other side with" what do you think was going on with Trump and the rest of the righties?" Lol.
    Incredible.
     
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  3. CapnTreee

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    Yeah I 'was' outraged for the past 8, 16 years. I loudly proclaimed Dubya was an idiot and that Obama was a sellout. Both remain true.
    You mostly agreed with me during those 8 years, but I guess now not so much.
    Mind you I never spoke to the color of the tint on purpose, they might be 'blue blockers' LOL

    Might I suggest that ANY review of Trumps egocentric performance has nothing to do with Hillary.

    She lost. Fuck her. She is not relevant to any conversations about Trump.

    Just because she did 'whatever' has zero bearing on Trump and his mania. She is a craven power whore, and so is Trump. That's about the only parallel that bears discussion this late in 2017.

    And no you're rather mistaken if you're claiming the Dems are any shade near white.. more shit show brown IMO
     
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  4. CapnTreee

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    wasting a moment of time I looked into the back stories on a couple things you noted about Hillary
    a) fuck her
    b) she and Slick Willie have a looooooong history of shady shit. No debate.
    c) none of matters except to indicate the lawless habits of nearly all elected leaders, all of whom truly think themselves above the law
    d) Trump is actually one of the more tech savvy politicians we see, having fully mastered the expressive advantages and mass appeal of Twitter. HRC was a cavewoman in contrast. Her tech chops were chopsticks, and she's arrogant about it. But again it isn't about her.

    I'm wondering how many of the 535 DC thieves could pass a high school tech exam? 10%? Maybe 20%? Not 80 or 90% as it should be. Average age in Congress is mid sixties with many 'leaders' in their seventies. Dems #2 block is 70-79.
     
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    Yeah...bring back "Carousel"!
    And Jenny Augutter's thighs...
     
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    ok i don't disagree about the power stuff
    i have even said openly i understand the disdain for his personality
    i also have a number of things that bother me about his administration
    including but not only the fact that ivanka is in the white house
    i am not a fanny of granny sessions
    the epa would seem to be under fire but i am also aware of the waste in all branches of government and will wait to see before being triggered
    i don't like the fact that he has taken a lot of time getting to major parts of his campaign promises
    but to say that nothing about his performance is related to hillary is just ignoring to the issues
    she is a bonafide CRIMINAL that was protected by the FBI, CIA , IRS and anyone that could help her but she remains at large w no real conversation
    and trump is accused and it is speculated he MIGHT have been talking to russia prior to an election and its basically all the dems have
    but yet it is reported on daily and treated as though its just a matter of time until we get him...
    if he said he was going to support gun control, expand planned parenthood and obamacare the dems would still oppose him
    actually you are right, nothing she did or obama did has any bearing because the press sucks their dicks and looks the other way
    i can't even recall ONE thing obama was taking to task on
    and yet trump gets bombarded daily, by the second for things people are speculating happened in an effort to take him down
    and its both sides of the political aisle that i loathe
    so while its not perfect i'll take it atm and hope for the best because despite what all the snowflakes say he IS the president
    i also find it amusing that the FACT that there is no proof of anything all i get is circular arguments about him
    how about disputing the fact that there is not one bit of evidence to suggest anything russia tried to do influenced the election?
    and that it is the ONLY thing the democrats have to whine about
    this is the bullshit that both parties pull and the reason trump flew in the window
    keep it up
     
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    I'd offer that it's still a bit early for such a proclamation

    where there's smoke...




    ... there's a well compensated disinformation campaign
     
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    I think we'll probably find a big pile of trump evidence too. Too many things for there not to be some substance.
     
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    i would say doubtful since he has been on the job for a couple of months and if comey could have he would have leaked it
    the guy is surrounded by people who hate him in his administration and are willing to leak anything and everything in an attempt to hurt him
    if there was something beyond "russians" it would be out there but the libs are really good at coming up w the next thing
    its actually hysterical that i've heard Capn's quote of "its a bit early to dismiss this" repeated no less than six times by dem supporters in the last 24 hours :laff:
    gotta hand it to those "non" fascists they stick together
    daily call for impeachment and whiny little sore losers is what i see
    taking trump down is the ONLY thing they stand for
     
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    I think there's probably a level of inexperience from Trump that's causing some of this. He's used to being in charge of his own (real estate) empire. I'm sure if someone broke the rules in one of his companies, he could sweep it under the rug. You can do back room deals with your competitors in the business world.

    Can't get away with any of that stuff in his current job.
     
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    True dat...it seems so much easier to sweep it when the lawyers have his job...no so much for a business man, as you wrote.
     
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    Yeah...That's a good point. You can sweep it under the rug, you just have to know how.
     
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    or be a democrat
    obama walked on all sorts of scandal w no problem
    i am not a trump boy but he's taking it from all sides atm
    no way any other president takes this heat from libs, repubs, the media and the hysterical left
    where were these outraged people when we were running guns to mexico, blaming benghazi on a film, the IRS was destroying conservative movements or the DOJ was meeting in the open w clinton on a tarmac?
    its all bullshit and these corrupt motherfuckers on both sides are doing everything in their power to take him out at the knees
    as a libertarian i would think this would be obvious to you
    i don't want a life for my kids controlled by these asshats
    liars, thieves, and outraged millionaires intent on holding power
    incredible moment in time and i am at a loss as to why anyone would want more of the same
     
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    True, but he brings most of it on himself. I knew the media was always going to hate him, but when he called CNN fake news, I knew the hate was going to go to the next level.

    There was plenty of criticism for all of those things. Maybe not in red headlines on CNN.com everyday, but he took heat. Obama was so graceful and charismatic that he won the media over. It's an important part of being president, unfortuneatly.

    Of course. That's what bureaucracies do. They sustain themselves at all costs. They'd rather die than change.


    It is. But from my point of view, Trump is little or no more on the side of liberty than Clinton would have been. He might want freer tax policies (maybe, it's not really clear), but he's stepping up drug law enforcement and his protectionist trade positions antithetical to the free market.

    At the end of the day, is it really all that different?
     
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    yeah, fake news was a bit much
    he should have just called them hacks lol
     
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    I thought it was fucking hilarious and mostly true.
    But stupid at the same time.
     
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    things are at such a heightened state of hysteria right now its clear he's doing something right
    whether or not anyone believes he will govern one way or another he deserves the opportunity to govern
    i really hope this comey investigation blows up in the face of clinton and obama
    if it was obamas grace and charisma that prevented him from scrutiny then what was the deal w pillory?
    the media is totally in the bag for the democrat no matter what
    they just did a media survey that pointed out cnn spends the majority of its time complaining and hypothesizing on trumps problems
    they are obsessed and they are completely biased for their entire existence
    yeah trump talked to the russians and maybe there is something there and maybe there isn't
    remember this?
    absolute irrefutable evidence and NOTHING
    yet w no facts of any kind they are pushing on to get trump because after all its the only game in town
     
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    thats a pretty red carpet the saudis rolled out for the prez
    sure miss that apology tour
    the imagery is unmistakable w the king in ill health meeting him at the edge of the red carpet
    not a fan of the saudis or their culture but that was crazy
     

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