FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. BlueMouse

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    It's actually a perfect analogy in this situation.

    Yes, eventually the snow will melt. But for now and 2018... Winter is Coming.
     
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    100% that's how I took it. Which is why I responded by (sarcastically) saying sometimes it's not as simple as "I'll just laugh and get over this" when it's literally an issue of life or death for thousands and thousands of people.

    As of July 31st I won't have the ability to be under my mom's insurance. I was only able to stay on their insurance as long as I did because of Obama and the ACA. I'm really praying you're right and they keep ACA around.
     
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    The point I was trying to make was broader and less specific than many of the individual issues we talk about in here.
    Americans have become so ridiculously sensitive that everything is a microagression and being offended is almost a way of life. It's a cultural intolerance of free expression.
    Snowflakes are the people that are hurt by even the most inoffensive of language. Are you sure you're a snowflake?

    The Milo thing is an extreme example. He's an asshole and he says stupid stuff, but let him say his shit, don't get all buthurrt about it and move on. His words can't hurt you, unless you let them, or you empower them by drawing more attention to him than he deserves. Some might argue it's hate speech, and it probably is, but so what. As far as I'm concerned, if the KKK, or the Communist Party, Black Block or Antifa want to have a voice and people want to see them, they should be allowed their voice, no matter how repulsive it may be.

    As for the TPP, it's actually a much bigger deal there than it is here. Australia depends very heavily on free trade in the pacific, and especially with America. It's significant threat to their economy if they can't get free trade deals.

    I wasn't trying to say people there don't care or aren't engaged, because they are, I was trying to say they have a less temper tantrumey way of going about things.
    Americans act like a bunch of spoiled children.
     
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    That's not at all what I meant. I was talking about a broader behavior (see previous post).
     
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    And when they melt they become a deluge.
     
  6. BlueMouse

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    The analogy is losing steam now.
     
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    Life is a state of mind.
     
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    If you fail to precipitate the portents in the clouds you will end up all wet.
     
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    Right now the term snowflake is being used to describe anyone speaking up or gathering in opposition of the Trump-supporter agenda. You even said yourself that the Aussies didn't get all "snowflakey" about the TPP, which has nothing to do with offensive language. I don't want to get into rhetoric about the meaning of the term snowflake, but I think you can see where confusion comes in.
     
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    I liked this, but I have no idea what it means.
     
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    Perhaps a mixed metaphor because I'm too lazy to type a ruven style paragraph.
    There's a cultural difference there.
    There's also a group of people here (especially on college campuses) that seem to be making a career of being offended.
     
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    I really don't know what will happen with the ACA. There's a lot of pressure now for Republicans to have an alternative plan in place before repealing ACA - at least that's the stance of many/most Republican representatives now, even though it wasn't that long ago when they didn't want the ACA at all. I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with a carbon-copy plan to replace it just to save face, nor would I be surprised if they just backed off completely and let it stand. If either of those happens it will be a huge win for liberals given a Republican controlled House-Senate-President.
     
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    Throughout history it's never been hard to start a group of protestors on a college campus. It's like the Patriots playing in the Super Bowl, you can hate it but at a certain point you just have to accept that that's the way it is.
     
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    They attack us at our weakest. Our kids.
     
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    You mean the conservatives.
    Because the ACA is now conservative. Regardless of the rhetoric.
    Once a boon is given to the people it cant easily be taken back.
    Social Security was liberal. Then once it became implemented it was conservative. Conservatives want to protect SS and medicare and other such establishments.
    Or like how Bush was a Nazi war criminal to liberals a decade ago when he said "history will judge me rightly" or something to that effect.
    History/Time is conservative. The patriot act and all the other 'draconian' measures we railed against look like virtues compared to the way things are being done now and will be done in the future.
    Hindsight is judging Bush pretty leniently.
     
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    I think the thing most detractors of the ACA have issue with is the individual mandate, and the associated fine.
    I think there's a bunch of things that can be done in the short term that allow people to not buy insurance if they don't want to and still keep prices from spiraling out of control any more than they already are

    1. Remove restrictions on high deductible plans, allow more flexible plans in general
    2. Make all medical expenses tax deductable (you can use your HSA on anything, not just a high deductible plan)
    3. Allow insurers to sell across state lines (more competition, better markets)
    4. Allow individuals (and businesses that represent them) to pool together for plans.

    In the long term you can look at tort reform and reducing (or at least bringing sanity) to regulation to push costs down even more.
     
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    That's not what I'm talking about. Protesting war, civil rights and even drug laws is one thing.
    Protesting microagressions and demanding shelter from ideas is another.
     
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    And the White Walkers...
    I stay near as possble to Drogon.
     
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    lets get real

    Man tosses explosive device into crowded Southern California restaurant
    Published February 03, 2017
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    Panic erupted at a Southern California Cheesecake Factory on Thursday night after a man tossed in improvised explosive device, police said.

    Pasadena police said the suspect was still at large.

    Police Lt. Art Chute said the incident took place at around 6 p.m. He described the explosive as a “homemade pyrotechnic device.”

    The restaurant was crowded with patrons settling down for dinner when a man opened the front doors and tossed the device. The device exploded, but no one was injured and there wasn’t any significant damage.

    “Officers immediately entered the restaurant and evacuated customers and employees and located a detonated homemade pyrotechnic device,” Pasadena police said in statement. “The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department Bomb squad responded to the scene and rendered the device safe.”

    The suspect was described as a Latino or Middle Eastern man, about 6-feet tall and sporting a “heavy beard,” according to the Orange County Register. He was seen wearing black clothing and a black beanie.

    Authorities urged anyone with information to call the Pasadena police at 626-744-4241.
     
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    Sadly, the beat goes on..
     

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