FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. BigDaddyKaine

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    Latino or Middle Eastern

    Hmm...

    How many think it was a latino?
     
  2. BlueMouse

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    I dunno, Description sounds like Sergio Romo...
     
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    Surprised it was a really tan white guy.
     
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    Almost every other source has this as a "glorified firecracker". Fake news tho amirite?
     
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    well if a middle eastern guy opened a door at a restaurant door and tossed a firecracker or any other type of device i'm pretty sure you would panic
    so the news isn't exactly fake
    those people probably envisioned the worst and were almost certainly terrorized
    but of course the media never downplays anything when it comes to terrorists do they?
     
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    lol thats fucked up.
     
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    I'll be honest, anyone could toss any type of fucking explosive and I'm ducking. I'll doubly fucking duck if I hear praying when they chuck that shit.

    My comment was more directed at the terminology used by Fox News, IED as opposed to a firecracker as reported by most news outlets. While technically true... everyone knows what type of connotation the word IED brings.
     
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    Super Bowl 51 Completes the Left's Hyper-Politicization of Absolutely Everything

    A major newspaper demands Patriots' quarterback Tom Brady answer for his support of President Trump. Lady Gaga will use her halftime show to sing about "equality" and "inclusion." The insufferable and polarizing cast of "Hamilton" will sing "America the Beautiful." There will be not one but two ads hectoring us over the issue of immigration.

    All of this is happening, not during the Oscars or the next hour of CNN, but during that only time of year when Americans of every political stripe were once allowed to come together for a 5 hour oasis away from politics and the culture wars … the Super Bowl.

    Because, as the saying goes, liberals eventually ruin everything, the politicization of sports was inevitable. That is not to say sports were always a politics-free oasis. We have had our share of Muhammad Alis and Jackie Robinsons and Billie Jean Kings. These transformative figures were, however, exceptions. They also stood for something that transcended the game.

    Anyone who has watched even a snippet of ESPN over the last few years knows that there is now a relentless push to politicize everything about almost every sporting event. Whereas a Muhammad Ali strode into the spotlight, bringing with him an outsized personality (and talent) that overshadowed the sport of boxing and disrupted America at-large, today's social justice warriors (SJWs) transcend nothing. From crybaby Colin Kaepernick to the brutalization of practicing-Christian Tim Tebow, it is only about obnoxious, partisan point-scoring. Or as Ben Domenech articulates so well in his New York Times op-ed:

    ….lessen[ing] something important entertainment provides: a break from the ardent and all-encompassing politics that have left Americans feeling divided, anxious and angry.

    When you “stick to sports,” you are doing more than confining yourself to the field and the court. You are providing a way for people who may have diametrically opposed politics to share a beer at a bar discussing quarterbacks instead of executive orders.

    Domenech also points out, quite correctly, that Fox News is not helping. With the network's now-regular feature of having Bill O'Reilly host a pre-game interview with the sitting American president (Trump is set to appear), the entire event is launched in a way that clear-cuts the oasis.

    Way back in 2002, the writing was on the wall for the politicization of football, most especially the Super Bowl. Thankfully I inherited my father's total and complete disinterest in sports, so I have no real skin in this game, but when I saw how patriotic that year's Super Bowl was, I remember telling my wife (an avid Green Bay Packers fan) that the Left will not allow this to stand.

    The Super Bowl is by far our country's biggest annual cultural event (the Oscars don't even come close), and it reeks of thematic (not partisan) conservatism. Masculinity, patriotism, the reading of the Declaration of Independence, a winner and a loser, the pursuit of excellence, men of all races competing in an environment where skin color isn't an issue… There was just no way the Left could allow this to go on. Better than anyone, they understand how important it is to hijack the culture.

    I'm not sure, though, that this is as effective as it once was. In the parlance of the modern-day SJW, throughout the awful Obama-era, Middle America got "woke." Thanks to alternative news outlets and social media, the Left's long-held tactic of manufacturing an alternate reality, of using their news media and cultural monopolies as a means to make the rest of us feel isolated and alone, as a means to wear us down, no longer -- look at all that red! -- appears to work.

    In fact, if you add up the collapse of the Democrat Party with the television ratings for post-SJW ESPN and the post-Kaepernick NFL, this tactic appears to be backfiring. The obnoxious and boorish politicization of absolutely everything no longer results in converts to the cause, but rather brand damage and our mass media no longer being so mass.

    This extremely healthy balkanization of our culture (and news media) is possible now that we live in a world filled with so many alternatives. What a blessing that we are no longer held captive to the Left's programming.

    Nevertheless, that reality won't stop the Left.

    If they can no longer convert us to the cause, they have belligerently decided that intruding into, childishly stomping on, and just plain ruining everything that once meant relaxation and coming together as a country, is a perfectly fine second place prize.

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    Love it. My only issue with the article is calling these insufferable celebs and media personalities "liberals". These are no liberals. They are leftists. True liberals are cool by me. Leftists are the enemy of western civilization.
     
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    Mainstream media is going to be slanted, they are all compromised.
     
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    So I get the idea that sports is often a haven for us to get away from real world problems. It's why many of us come here, and why most avoid this thread...

    But I don't quite get this article. The first paragraph of the article almost sounds like satire. The article also carved out exceptions for other "political" figures in sports, who were also controversial in their time but when we look back it's hard to make his argument against.

    Is it at all concerning when "equality" "inclusion" and standing up against backwards gay rights views is considered hyper left politicizing?
     
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    Gaga kept it all class. Bravo.
     
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    you could argue that madonna was once what gaga is...
    just without the talent baggage
     
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    Neither is my cup of tea musically, but I think Gaga has a much better voice.
     
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    Yeah, I agree with that.
    Madonna was pretty cool in the 80's.
    Now she's a thirsty old slut that looks like she's trying way too hard.
    Hope gaga finds a way to age gracefully.
     
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    backwards gay rights views...so you are talking about sharia law and muslim countries right?
    might be a smidgen more sincere if liberals were taking the fight where it belongs
    hysterical outrage may be the fashion of the moment but common sense people have chosen to ignore it
     
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    Ali really had people that were trying to kill him. The CIA really did make shit tough for him. He was arrested and had to live elsewhere.
    People who are fighting for rights will face true consequences.
    If you are in a 'fight' and there are no consequences for your fighting then you arent in a fight.
    You are in a temper tantrum.
    And your protests don't mean a thing.

    These current political forays by stars and athletes are hollow self promotion for their next single or magazine cover.
    There is no threat of incarceration or bodily harm for what they are doing.
    Without sacrifice there is nothing.
    Thats why to testify means to put your balls to the test.
     
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    I was just referring to the article suggesting that by merely including the cast of Hamilton in the half-time show, that it is hyper-politicizing. I assumed the negativity is in response to the cast speaking out after a show where Mike Pence was in attendance, or as Donald Trump called it "harassing".

    My original point was that considering singing about inclusion and equality or the inclusion of the cast of Hamilton to be hyper-politicizing is a stretch.

    I understand what you are saying though. The paradox of arguing for inclusion and equality, which includes arguing for the inclusion of people who likely have views against inclusion and equality.
     
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    Equality does not mean that we are all the same.
    It means we are all valued.
    Some are valued for certain things they do well.
    Other are valued for certain other things they do well.
    But what about those that cant do things well, are they not valued?
    True equality means everyone has value, intrinsically.
    What that value is cannot be measured by any artificial means
    Once you start to measure values you get inequality.
    No matter how much your society talks about 'equality'.
    We are obviously not an equal society.
    People believe themselves to be more valuable than others.
    And our greed and envy makes us believe that those that make more money than us are more valuable than us.
    In that respect we devalue our own worth.
    A woman is not more valuable because she can give birth, and a man is not more valuable because he can get paid a higher salary for the same work. They are both valuable, they are both equal in worth, but they are not the same.
     
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    Madonna has been trying way too hard going on 25 years now.

    I'm not a fan of Lady Gaga's music, but there's no denying she is super talented. A good actress too, I liked her in American Horror Story: Hotel.
     
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