What changes should take place in the FO?

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What changes should be made to the Dodgers' Front Office?

  1. It is a rough patch, overall Ned and company have done a decent job and they should stay.

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  2. Give him until the end of the year and make a decision at that point.

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  3. Fire him immediately and make a statement about how the Dodgers feel about mediocrity.

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  4. Use his next move as a barometer and treat him accordlingly.

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  1. blueplatespecial

    blueplatespecial DSP Legend

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    Kasten: "I walked in day one saying, you should all regard my GM as permanent."

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    This is from a NY Daily News article about the FO's of NYM and LAD:
     
  2. blueplatespecial

    blueplatespecial DSP Legend

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    ^I sent a note to T.J. Simers - wondering why this story didn't make the LA Times. :stirpot:
     
  3. LAdiablo

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    "We’re evaluating everything," he said. "But I have to say, the problems that were associated with the franchise in recent years haven’t been about the front office. Let’s be honest.

    sounds like a ff lawsuit to me
     
  4. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    honest?
    you mean honest like when you and Magic said "McCourt wouldn't be getting one penny" and then we find out that he'd actually be getting $14MM annually?
    yeah, let's be honest Stan... you haven't been honest with us yet
     
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  5. IBleedBlue15

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    If we get a ring or multiple rings under the Kasten/Magic/etc. ownership, they can lie to me all they want.
     
  6. LAFord

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    This team is not "subpar". WTF? Why all the hate? We have been in firstplace all year, We still hold the top 3 best records in the league with a mountain of injuries. Only 2 starting players haven't been on the DL yet this year...one of them is Loney...which kills us when healthy.
    The pitching staff kicks ass, especially the bullpen.
    This team plays like a team. Our big hole is powerhitting...but that is mostly attributed to Kemp and Ethier being gone. A solid two months of best record in baseball is not "luck or a fast streak", It's a team that plays well and has many strengths and few weaknesses.

    It's a shame I find I have to defend my team like I'm on a forum with Angel and Giant's fans. Seriously, some of you come across that way. It's your right to do so...and it's my duty to defend my team. :D
     
  7. southerndodgerfan

    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    Defend away. You should. They are your team. They are also mine. The team currently on the field sans Ethier and Kemp is subpar. We also need another bat. We have guys that are playing way above their heads. There have been some very poor acquisitions the last three years. I put this on Ned. Uribe's contract could have netted us better IMO. Ned, IN MY OPINION, is a poor judge of talent. He does not think long term and gets visions of sugarplums. We have a great record. That does NOT negate that we need another bat and probably a starting pitcher. And, since we are in the subject, why do we have so many injuries year in and year out? Could it be CONTE? Ned's boy? The same guy that said Schmidt was fine? Think about that.
     
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  8. dodgers

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    He doesnt think long term but you wanted to trade for Utley, Victorino, and Hamels in a single farm gutting mlb: the show type trade didnt you?
     
  9. irish

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    utley yeah, no
    but to be fair
    victorino > any LAD outfielder not named Kemp or Ethier
    hamels > any LAD pitcher not named Kershaw
     
  10. LAFord

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    OK, so the team is subpar WITHOUT Kemp and Ethier. Well, yeah I agree, no shit. It was hardly obvious you meant it that way IMO.

    Ned's fault? I don't think so. Take the 2 best players of any MLB team with a payroll under $100M and see what they turn out being. This is still Mccunt's fault BECAUSE we have a huge market team with a payroll south of $100M. Ned did sign Uribe, that sucked but he also signed Capuano. Every team in the world has their shitheads and dissapointments and they also have their guys playing above expectations. Again, take the 2 BEST players off any team and see if they are contenders,well we still seem to be, we can't give credit to Ned for that? Why does Ned only get the negatives and never scores credit from many of us here?
    Ned is not a great GM, but he's hardly been the worst and Mccunt no doubt had some negative effects on Ned's ability. You name every bad move, and I'll name a good one.
     
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    "Regard the GMs as permanent"?????
    I knew it, posted it , and I never believed Ned was going fucking anywhere.
    This is the guy everyone has been laying all their hopes on, Kasten? And if he does come up with a pile of money for Ned, just like he had with McCourt, if you can face the truth (the ones that say "his hands were tied" and hate McCourt so much they want to deny what actually WAS the situation early on at one time), Ned's in charge again and indefinitely?
    I say those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
    And the argument is about if we are sub par or not?
    I guess whatever is important is what it is for some priority -wise, but for me, that statement about Ned from Kasten spells more of nothing as usual in the long run. Par or sub par will all be a wash with a decade or two more of oblivion.
    It may as well be a dagger through our brand new beating heart.
     
  12. blueplatespecial

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    But all of this is a big secret, BZ. You have to be a reader of the NY Daily News to get the story. Not a peep in the LA Times. I sent Simers an email with the links - we'll have to wait and see if he does anything with it.

    Here's the email: t.j.simers@latimes.com
     
  13. southerndodgerfan

    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    I did if we could acquire them for two decent pieces. If one does the math, one would understand that given our current long term options, we need to be contenders now or in the next few. Otherwise, we have a long blank in between good teams. I did a whole post on it and explained my reasoning. You may not have read it, I did not refer to anyone as twat or dick. It may not have been to your taste. Have a great one.
     
  14. southerndodgerfan

    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    This is where we disagree. I DO think McCourt causes most of this. I also think Ned was schooled more than once and used payroll issues as an excuse. That is my opinion. As far as taking away the two best players, I think this is an interesting point. Ned walked into Kemp. He lucked into Ethier thanks to a scout in the room. He has even stated he was going a different route. When you consider that he had a chance to add premium talent (and even decent talent) but chose other options, is he a good GM--or even decent one? No, IMO. He insisted on gathering a plethora of middle infielders and 4th outfielders when a few could have cost the same as a decent bat that could play daily. It is beyond frustrating. Kennedy is making more this year than he did last after putting up horrid numbers. Uribe is not his only fuckup.
     
  15. southerndodgerfan

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    As I explained, Utley playing half the year has more pop than we have had at second since Kent's departure. He is an injury waiting to happen but our options are very limited thanks to the addition of another WC team and the fact that the league knows that we are hurting and Ned is desperate.
     
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    One thing I have realized over the whole McCourt drama is that people really like Ned. All the hate is directed towards (and rightfully so) to Frank, but Ned is pretty well liked by the media.
     

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