was going to put this in the main baseball forum but since most of you never go there... is it any surprise angel hernandez is involved in this? imo, the worst umpire out there dude should be fired immediately video HERE A's still upset over blown call Associated Press | May 9, 2013, 12:53 PM ETCLEVELAND -- Oakland Athletics manager Bob Melvin still believes he witnessed a home run, and nothing will change his mind. Unfortunately, there's nothing he can do about it. Melvin said Thursday that he has been in contact with Major League Baseball regarding the disputed ninth-inning call in Wednesday night's game against the Cleveland Indians. Umpires ruled that a ball hit by Oakland's Adam Rosales with two outs was a double, not a game-tying homer. The umpires did not reverse their call despite watching video. TV replays clearly showed Rosales' ball went over the wall, and their decision shocked the A's, the Indians, 14,000 fans in attendance at Progressive Field and anyone watching the game on TV. Melvin does not know whether the call will be overturned but expects baseball officials to comment. "I've heard from MLB, and I'm not going to say what they said," Melvin said before the A's and Indians wrapped up a four-game series. "It's probably what the majority saw, but what they're going to do from here, I haven't had any discussions about that." Helped by the disputed call, the Indians held on and won 4-3 as closer Chris Perez escaped a bases-loaded jam. Melvin, who had requested that the umpires review Rosales' hit, was automatically ejected by second-base umpire Angel Hernandez for charging onto the field and arguing after the video review. MLB rules state that once the review is made, the call stands. Hernandez, who asked a pool reporter not to record his interview after the game, said there was not enough clear proof to overturn the original call. "It wasn't evident on the TV we had it was a home run," Hernandez said. "I don't know what kind of replay you had, but you can't reverse a call unless there is 100 percent evidence, and there wasn't 100 percent evidence." Melvin wasn't entirely familiar with the review procedure, which takes place off the field and near the umpires' dressing room. But he was confident the three umpires who left the field would see the same replays that were available to anyone watching the TV broadcasts. Melvin said he became concerned the double would not be ruled a homer when the umpires took extra time to review the play. "It actually worried me when it took so long because I knew all it took was one replay to see," he said. "Even the group in the suite next to us, you could see them look at the replay one time, and they all turned away and said it was a home run. When I went and looked at it in the video room, their TV announcers were saying, 'This is a home run, let's go.'" Melvin's understanding is that the umpires get several camera angles when reviewing a contested homer. "They get all the feeds from both outlets and maybe even another one, I don't know," he said. "But I don't think that MLB withholds feeds from them. Now what they're watching it on, I don't know. I'm not in there. It came down to somebody's decision, and that was probably against the grain from what the majority thought." Melvin planned to take out the lineup card before Thursday's game, and joked that he "hoped" he wouldn't get ejected. "I don't have much to say about it," he said. "I'm not going to talk to them about it. If they want talk about it, it's one thing, but I'm just going to take the lineup card out." Copyright 2013 by The Associated Press __
He is the worst ever! (Not because he is hispanic) How in the fuck is this even possible? they are wrong on the replay call too? I was eating dinner at a resturant, sitting a good 20ft from a 36" TV and could see it was a HR...no doubt about it. seriously, this is just a disgrace that the replay was put in to fix these guy's fuck-ups...and then they go fuck that up!
Manager Bob Melvin obviously didn't contribute to the Angel Hernandez private fund before the game. A simple deposit and all of this could have been avoided.
yeah I was just going to post the same the link goes to a HR in the 6th inning not the one disputed in the 9th inning
The integrity of the game gets compromised when umpires can't admit their mistakes. I hope whoever takes over as Commissioner fires this assclown. How is one voted the worst umpire and still have a job. If I was the worst employee where I worked, I'd get canned. Fire the fucker.
Clearly you don't work in a union house... Good or bad doesn't matter... only your tenure counts... This is why we have nothing but grandma's as flight attendants these days.. fucking unions...
here's the link you lazy fags couldn't find it yourself? http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=26965213&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_must_c
"And Angel Hernandez got it wrong, and that's really not a suprise" - some announcer. So, what is the verdict on this BS? I mean, everyone can see the fucker was a HR now.
remember a couple of years ago when umpire jim joyce's blunder cost detroit's armando gallaraga a perfect game the first thing joyce did after the game -- before talking to reporters or anyone -- was go and watch the replays afterward, joyce admitted that he missed the call and "took a perfect game away from that kid over there that worked his ass off all night" this is all hernandez would have had to do to remedy the situation be accountable but self-righteous indignant pricks like he and his buddy joe west somehow believe that they're bigger than the game
how can the umpiring crew not know this rule seriously i remember vinny explaining it on the radio many years ago... [paraphrasing]... if you change pitchers and the opposing team puts in a pinch hitter, your pitcher must throw at least one pitch before being replaced. otherwise it could go on forever... hell, i -- a fan -- knew the rule and they didn't?!!! great work you're doing up there torre, great job... fag Another day, another goof: Umps allow rule-breaking Astros pitching change By Mike Oz | Big League Stew – 9 hours agoA day after a group of umpires botched a home-run ruling, another group of umpires let the Houston Astros make an obviously illegal pitching change. The opposing Los Angeles Angels played the rest of the game under protest, which doesn't really matter now because the Angels won the game 6-5. What does matter, though: The umpires blatantly went against the rule book and after the game wouldn't comment on it. Here's the play-by-play: Astros manager Bo Porter called lefty Wesley Wright out of the bullpen to replace Paul Clemens in the seventh inning. The Angels countered by pinch-hitting for their left-handed batter with a right-hander. Wright didn't throw a pitch before Porter came back out and called for a right-handed reliever. What the umps should have said: Sorry, Bo, that's against rule 3.05(B). Can't pull a pitcher who hasn't pitched. What they did say: Sure, go for it. Angels skipper Mike Scioscia was livid, of course, and filed the protest immediately. Here's the text of the rule in question:If the pitcher is replaced, the substitute pitcher shall pitch to the batter then at bat, or any substitute batter, until such batter is put out or reaches first base, or until the offensive team is put out, unless the substitute pitcher sustains injury or illness which, in the umpire-in-chief's judgment, incapacitates him for further play as a pitcher.After the game, Porter's explanation was, to crib from Dave Chappelle, "I didn't know I couldn't do that." Here's what Porter actually said, via MLB.com's Brian McTaggart:“My understanding of the rule, and I was fortunate enough last year to sit in with [Nationals manager] Davey [Johnson] when they changed the rule of a pitcher having to face a batter. But at the same time, if you have to pinch-hit for that batter, you now have the right to bring in another pitcher. Technically, Wesley came in to pitch the batter that was scheduled to hit [Shuck] but he pinch-hit for the batter that was scheduled to hit. Which, from my understanding of the rule, you can bring in another pitcher to face the pinch-hitter.”The crew chief of the umpiring team, Fieldin Culbreth, didn't have a better explanation either. In fact, he didn't have any explanation."The only thing I can tell you is that all matters concerning protests are handled through the league office, and that's all I can tell you," Culbreth said.That's from Alden Gonzalez's story on MLB.com, which also notes Culbreth gave essentially the same answer on a follow-up question. Better get that statement ready, Joe Torre. A "no comment" might fly, if not for an umpire debacle the night before. Now? Well, we'll let Yahoo! Sports' Jeff Passan bring the pain: On the bright side, at least the Angels won the game. Not just because that renders the protest moot, but because it would be really embarrassing for the Angels to get swept by the Astros.__
yeah, have to agree with the author not sure where exactly acta is coming from thankful you're not managing our team... not that anyone else is Manny Acta thinks Joe West is the fifth best umpire in baseball by Craig Calcaterra | NBC Sports Hardball Talk May 14, 2013, 11:33 AM EDTManny Acta works for ESPN now and has a column up about technology and umpiring today. It's Insider-only, so you can't read it without a subscription, but most of it is spent talking about how technology has changed how players prepare for games and stuff. That's all good. And really, if you're going to have a very recent ex-manager writing columns, his behind-the-scenes insight on that stuff is the way to go. Manny's Top 10: Jeff Nelson: He averages 0.00 smiles per game, but no one cares more and works harder than this guy. Solid all around and very consistent. Jim Reynolds: Friendly, but professional with a terrific strike zone and very good on the bases. Tim McClelland: He has ended up in the middle of a number of controversial calls in his carer, but he commands respect and deserves it. He still has one of the best strike zones in the game. Ron Kulpa: He really cares and has a good common sense when handling stuff on the field. Joe West: His "I'm here and I'm in charge attitude" makes him unpopular among players and managers, but you can’t ignore how good he is. He's the guy you want to have behind the plate during a do-or-die game. Whoa, Dwayne. I think West is probably the second to the last I'd rather have behind the plate before Angel Hernandez and that's about it. I'd be curious to see where other managers rank West. I can’t imagine he'd be anywhere near the top five. I question whether he'd make the top 30.
