DODGERS OFF-TOPIC Thread

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  1. LAdiablo

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    so the facility my sick selfish idiot bro in law stays at decided to take him to Solvang on an overnight to create camaraderie w the house members
    of course he found a way to get out and get drunk putting the caregivers jobs in jeopardy and ruining the day for everyone
    really tired of this asshole
    btw Happy fathers day daddies
     
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  2. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    that guy needs to be in a family home where they dont let him out
    like mine
    i got 2 retarded people and 4 geriatrics
    i got my nephew to move in to help me
    hes a teacher with 3 degrees who is burnt out of the system
    now i found him a caregiver job working with retards at salem sanctuary homes
    he loves it and lives out of my old shed
    he says he never felt so happy in his life
    all the stress of his previous life was killing him
    maybe you should send your brother in law over here

    yay happy fathers day to me!!
    i love being a father
    been doing it since the 80s
    thats why mexicans call me padre
    maybe i cant help it
    its also my birthday on fathers day
    kinda like its meant to be
    the middle of the year
    every year!

    but this year there is only one thing i want for my birthday.
    for craig to give me back control of DSP
    like Irish says this is my baby and its not right to just take it away
    right Irish?

    i made this place when you were little babies being mistreated at your orphanage
    then when you grew up a bit and wanted to be rebellious teenagers...
    i stepped back to let you feel yourselves out
    i been back and now you babies are all grown up and got your own degrees
    dont need or want a padre anymore
    time to kick him to the curb

    i chose you people
    not because of your virtues
    but because of your faults
    that is what makes you a chosen lot
    because you needed more looking after
    the more you look after something
    the more you grow to care about it
    and the less their faults are a problem

    after all
    its what you choose that you have
    and that is what you have to work with
    might as well make the best of it
    the best
     
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    Wow. That's messed up. Nothing to say to make this better. Just wow fuck.
     
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    well happy birthday rube and hope you get a Dodger win over the hated ones to go along with it!
    as far as the site goes i agree its your thing and said as much when you wanted me to buy it
    i couldn't do it for a multitude of reasons but there is a financial aspect that i think Craig has really stepped up on
    not sure if the forum is the place you would wish to air out those things
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    first, that's not exactly what i said
    secondly, thanks for making it appear that i'm anti-craig
    not cool and this never should have been aired here
    what i said was that you and craig needed to talk because it was between you and him
    i had, and quite honestly, have nothing to do with it
    and involving me in it is pretty inconsiderate tbh
    i restored your mod powers because that's what you asked, but in retrospect i should have done nothing
    it was craig's decision to cut your powers and he should have been the only one to restore them
    i exceeded my powers and stepped on his toes
    and sorry... but if DSP is your baby, then you're a deadbeat dad
    because every time the site has had a problem it has been craig, and not you, who has been the one to resolve it
    for the past couple years this site has continued to exist almost solely because of craig
    if anything you should be thanking him
    and if you're unhappy about what he's doing, remember it was you who gave him the powers to do what he did
    probably the last good decision you've made

    sorry to everyone here if i sound like a dick but this needed to be said
     
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  6. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    thanks!
    ill be honest, after the stuff with my wife and the cancer i stopped watching the dodgers
    now i will watch highlights here and there
    i got into a little lakers basketball this year but i had to really try to get into it again
    i dont even like lebron but i was trying to get into it, you know what i mean

    i was selling the site, for how much?
    cuz i remember a few people offering me money to buy the site back in the day and i not even entertaining it
    but i did have some tough situations with my health and other stuff where i was weak physically, financially, and emotionally
    those were some tough times

    maybe at some point i might have entertained something, i dont know
    i did lean on you a lot sometimes when i was feeling bad
    i knew that no matter how vulnerable i got with you i knew you would say some kind words to help me feel encouraged
    and it would work, i would feel better no matter what you replied because you would always be kind which is what i guess i was needing
    so if i somehow was talking to you about selling the site or if i asked you for work the conversation wasnt really about that
    it was about me needing a friend to talk to me gently and be kind regardless of the outcome of what we were talking about
    that no matter what my situation was you wouuld treat me like a prince
    and you did

    i doubt there would be anyone else that would say that i entertained selling the site because i never did and i didnt care about making money with it
    shit when people would tell me to put ads on the site i would probably go into some screed about independence and purity or some other hippy bullshit

    im also pretty private when it comes to talking about this stuff but nobody really gives me any answers as to why control was taken from my own website
    i tried asking craig and he just says he isnt restoring control
    i shared control

    besides, when i made this site it was for people to speak freely because on other sites they couldnt
    the admins do not use the mod forum, everything is done through private messaging now
    so theres no paper trail of anything
    everything is a secret

    its kinda strange that im being told by you what i should and shouldnt take about
    on this site that is about speaking your mind when you cant speak it elsewhere
    as far as airing things out well maybe its time the blister just burst and people say what they really want to say

    im just asking why i was removed and why craig doesnt tell me why
    its been months and i still havent been told
    i was asked to keep out of the forums so i did and asked craig directly
     
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    when you asked me if i wanted to buy the site we never talked about money because i rejected it on principle and not really wanting the responsibility
    i've learned those types of things require my time and i avoid like becoming a member of an HOA board
    i don't recall telling you what you should or shouldn't talk about but i'll ask you a question
    a couple of times we raised some money to support the site
    did that always go towards the upkeep of the site?
    it seems like we are always on the brink of things shutting down and as far as i can tell the only thing holding things together is Craig
    also its your site and you and i both are allowed to say what we want which at times goes too far
    shouldn't be a disagreement leads to a poster having his ticket punched
     
  8. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    you are correct, i did not quote you exactly
    i did not think you were expecting a direct quote
    i didnt know it was an inquisition
    i guess im just a dumb rube always finding out last

    i didnt mean to pit you against craig
    giving you stress is the last thing i want to do
    i apologize for my bad grammar, i should have cut it off at the baby part and then said the rest as what it was, my own opinion
    the part about 'its not right to take it away from me' should have been more clearly described as my opinion to what you said about it being my baby
    i honestly do not remember if you said the 'its not right to take it away from me part' but i do remember that after our conversation about it that i felt that it was not right to take it away from me
    again i did not mean to imply you are somehow talking bad behind craig
    Irish did not talk behind craigs back, 100 percent.

    in fact all you did was tell me how he was a nice guy and that i could talk to him and shit like that
    i was kinda shy about it and also didnt want to have any emotions about it so it made me a little apprehensive
    i guess i kinda had a feeling of dread
    like maybe people were trying to give me a hint
    but im too dumb to take it

    i dropped it initially because it was causing you stress and then i brought it up again in the forum and the forum told me to not talk about it
    i have done things the way you asked me to do as much as i can
    because i dont want you to have any stress
    but you are an admin
    i shared the control of the site with you and craig equally
    never thinking that you guys would not be equals with me

    i have always been appreciative and thankful of craig and you
    profusely, so thats kinda weird but im guessing you are feeling stressed about this
    s0 because of that i will cut it short now and just say thank you again for all that you have done to help the site
    ive always held you in high regard and respect and thought you felt the same way
    thank you for being friendly about it
     
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    yup you really got me there brother
     
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    Not happening.
    You disappear for years at a time.
    You don't pay for anything.
    You don't maintain the site.
    You abused your mod powers to win arguments that you made personal.
     
  11. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Clearly its not personal.

    You and I have never had an argument or disagreement much less a fight in the mod forum.
    The mod forum is filled with us always being in agreement on everything.
    And always consulting with each other and talking everything out.

    You know you should have talked to me before all of this.
    There is only one reason why you would not talk to me before.
    And the same reason you didnt talk to me about it after.
    Same reason i had to pull it out of you in public here.

    Its business.


    I have had to chase you down and drag it out here for you to finally talk.
    I thought maybe it was personal. Maybe I had hurt your feelings or something.
    I call you our resident rocket scientist out of appreciation. Never mockingly.
    Clearly its not personal.

    And you are a businessman.

    Like Irish says this is my baby and i love it.
    I am not in the mountains roughing it anymore.
    I am here in the city where the money flows like milk and honey.
    I never abandoned my baby.
    I always ensure its in good hands.
    I find the best men I can to care for it.
    I dont look them up and down if they are good men.
    I give them all of the tools they need to be successful.
    Including my full faith and trust.

    There is no need to fight.
    I can pay the bills again so you guys dont have to worry.
    I will put it back on the more expensive server.
    And I will make all of the plans I have written down in the mod forum happen by buying all of the mods and addons we need.
    Without asking for one dime from you guys.
    I dont have to worry about a house or a wife or all the death around me anymore.
    And the cancer thing is much better because i can put on weight again.
    Im ready to go and make DSP greater than ever!
    Focus all my money because money is not a problem.

    So if i need to reimburse you for your out of pocket expenses i get it.
    I dont like it, but its business and clearly not personal so I will pay if it will end the problem.
    I just sold a all my mountain junk recently and i got so much birthday money i havent even thought about what to spend it on.

    And that goes for anyone else who has fiduciary questions and feels that a reimbursement is an adequate answer to their question.
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    I shoulda also added at the end after the money bit that if anyone feels im targeting them or if anyone here feels im targeting anybody and being extra 'modetorial' or mean to another member please do not be afraid to tell me about it.
    That goes for all other grievances and complaints.
    Whenever you guys think im being a bad owner in how im leading the site or a bad administrator on how i set up the forum or a bad moderator for how i treat a member or members please tell me and help me come to my senses.
    Specially if you are a moderator or an administrator or someone who is a veteran old time member.

    For me the issue with Finksi been over for months. I get he might still be a little butt hurt so i been chilling giving him time.
    He tried to mess around and make jokes and attempt to be friendly again when i was still a little raw.
    So duh i was like fuck you Finksi dont tell me about no fancy new Grok bullshit back in my day we Googled 5 miles in the snow just to go to school!
    Unbeknownst to Finksi that made me curious to go try out Grok and have a ton of fun for a couple weeks making little simple games with the hope of integrating them to the forum like how we used to when we had the arcade.

    I am always dreaming about getting DSP back to the good old days but I either didnt have the time because of my work and then the energy once the health problems got worse or i was low on money/tech.
    The past couple of years I have been wanting to get at it since I have the energy and the time and the tech/money.

    Back in the old days of DSP we would hack all kinds of things together into the baked in features of the forum software in order to provide you guys with new features and needed quality of life improvements.
    We used to have to do everything by hand in the past.
    Lots of testing and trial and error because there were no solutions you could just go out and buy that worked at our scale.
    So there would be a lot of planned shutdowns and server migrations and other interruptions of service while upgrading and troubleshooting everything.

    Now we have the technology to do all of the things we used to do and many more.
    And the money and the time and the health.

    Lately I have been reading to you guys list off grievances from my actions in the past.
    I may not be replying directly but I am listening to what you are saying.
    And even before you guys said this stuff I had already stopped having an issue with Finksi at all.
    As in accepted that you guys are ultimately fine with his style of repartee.
    In the mod forum the two Craigs and I spoke at length about helping fix the Finksi problem.
    It for sure was not a personal issue with me as at that tine he was having issues with a number of people who only one or two survived.
    Unfortunately threads are starting to disappear in the mod forum earlier today.
    I hope its a technical issue or something with my browser not letting me see threads in the mod forum.
    Specially the ones where I suggest making Finksi a moderator to inspire his better angel to come out and act in a more professorial way.

    In fact one of the old original dreams of DSP was that if not for there always being one or two users who could not stop being nasty we could turn DSP into the first open forum where every member is a moderator and everyone not a moderator is a guest that can post and stuff.
    With everyone who is a member having mod access to at least one forum and from then multiple forums as well as increasing access to the mod forum in terms of first viewing it and then being able to participate.
    This was part of the original freedom and liberty and transparency just dont be a douche mentality that was DSP.
    But in the past years whenever I have tried to bring stuff like this up its no longer seen as something to aspire to.
    Instead im basically called a silly hippie stoner.
    In a nice and friendly way of course.

    Back to the Finksi. Its been months since we havent had a cross word to each other. At least from my part.
    I decided to learn from Finksi and start joking around with him and liking his posts when i thought they were funny and interesting or replying to his posts like how i would normally without any animosity from the past.
    Anyone can see if they search the histories or if you paid attention.
    Finksi of course got raw again after i wasnt ready to be friendly yet and responded in a reactionary way without pausing to reflect.
    That is easy to understand. Tit for tat until we all go blind.
    So i stopped and went back to talking to and treating Finksi like before.
    I let it go.

    For DSP.
    It was hurting the baby.
    All the bad things you guys believe ive done.
    Like abandoning the baby for some times and not being there for all of the babies games.
    But I always had a good reason and the reason was always in the best interest of the baby.
    I just cant always tell you all of the details because they are overwhelming.
    And I can usually only feel I can talk to one person at a time.
    Usually diablo because I already know he can take it and more importantly because he responds back with good stuff and is patient.
    Which makes me always believe hat he is my friend.

    The only regrets I have is that I never went to the lair and hung out, that I never went to see Limeytech play and hang out with him, that I never got to thank Darth in person for some important cash he threw my way when I was in a tough spot and that I didnt do more to break out of my shell and befriend more of you guys than I did.
    Obviously starting with Craig who I shoulda had lunch with years ago.
    But I am timid and my family calls me lame but hopefully only because I walk with a prestigious limp.
    And in the winter sometimes have to use a cane like an old pimp.
    Ok imma stop before the sweet cane kicks in a little more and the silliness begins.
    I forget this is serious business.
    Not the personal ads.
     
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    that is fucken outstanding!
     
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