FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Ah man this is so true.. and yet also false in the same breath.

It's truth that OUR US of A gubberment has an open hostility towards its citizens, promoted through DC corruption, which is coupled with a festering incompetence that "F"'s up nearly everything we allow it to touch. This is broken.

The contrast is that healthcare for all has been, and is currently being, successfully run in dozens of countries, ALL of whom charge citizens less than we're already paying in our current fucked up system of gouging

Today we spend the most and get nearly the least healthcare due to the open atmosphere of medical gouging.

Something needs to change. Of course your first statement didn't get any less true. It's a problem that needs addressed.

 

Which was me agreeing by stating WTF is wrong with demanding some form of CCC, or other public labor, if one desires benefits.

(and all our Lefty friends howl at me for thinking so)

 

when pushed all those who say its NOT socialism they advocate will state but we ALREADY have socialism
stop being deceitful and just say you want more of the money hard working people have for your policies
at least that would be honest
#taxationistheft

 

Sorry BDK but you're parroting #'s that were grossly marked up merely to argue. Look deeper and note that our entire national debt is less than helf that nonsense $34Trillion that the GOP nitwits keep parroting. So stop yourself from being fed BS data is the best first option. Next the devil (and not @LAdiablo ) is in the details..

 

Dude what do you think about ZERO taxes for anyone making under ... let's go with $200k?

Paid for by not repatriating hundreds of billions of dollars of offshore corporate tax evasion. Imagine if companies above $1B actually paid taxes? Instead of permitting GE to hire 100's of former IRS agents to keep it from paying a single cent in taxes with the mid-1990's. THAT is fucked up. Ask the Alphabet/Google tax team why they didn't pay the 35%, 25%, 20%... 2% taxes after sheltering billions through Bermuda/Bahamas/Ireland or any other entity willing to rewrite their own tax codes.

YOU got screwed by that shit. I got screwed. Our kids are going to get screwed worse paying the bills for our generations set of DC thieves.

Little guys get screwed daily.

Big guys screw us daily.

Did you care?

 

Nice @rube tangent there boss.

The simple point is that NOTHING is going to costs AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS SPENT FOR DECADES.

Nothing. Not healthcare. Not the military. Not anything.

No division or reduction is required of anything except by the idiots at Faux News

 

of course i care and wish that lobbyists had no part of the equation
unfortunately around 500 rich lawyers are making the laws
and somehow their wealth continues to expand
nothings changing until that part of the equation changes
if the fraud were removed that would be a start
but as it stands its well within the laws written by the thieves

 

Care to elaborate? As in why?

I mean we already spend more on our military than ANY other item in the budget.
Said budget for military spending is already greater than #2+#3+#4+#5 other country military budgets put together.
Were you not aware that for 20+ years it has been the USA habit of provoking war, wherever we choose, simply to use up munitions in order to buy more (to prop up the military industrial complex)

Don't get me wrong as I too want the strongest military on the planet. We've had that for a long long time. We've abused that power for a long time promoting democracy.

Most American's have virtually no sense of what a bully America is seen as to the rest of the world since they don't travel. At 30+ countries I think otherwise. We could spend 50% less and still outspend everyone else.

 

sign of a weak argument is blaming it on Fox news lol
do they overdue it sometimes? sure they do
is there ANY other media outlet on tv/cable that even attempts to give a conservative pov???
they are beating CNN/MSNBC combined in the ratings
i personally only watch Tucker and sometimes Baier but carry on w how they are the problem
you think their exaggerations or hyperbole compare to the lies pumped out by msm?
people are tired of being told what to think and the manipulation that goes w it
yeah it might not be "fair and balanced" but its light years ahead of the others in at least trying to give an objective pov
for sure they shine a light on the bullshit and hypocrisy of the left and it drives libs crazy
just look at the hysterical Trump madness on every other channel
not a peep when BO was POTUS and nothing about the lies and shame of the clintons
thats why people tune in to Fox
doesn't mean everything they report on isn't legit
unless you happened to be a screaming leftist pretending to be conservative lol

 

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight and that's a good one too.
When certain BS only appears in one location ($34T = Faux News) then one tends to associate the two together.
Wherever one gains their news.

If ANY other media had used a number within 1000% then we'd shrug and call it close enough. Of course the GOP has doubled down in their open support of whatever Faux News comes up with next and yesterday I took a call from the Mimi Walters campaign, having voted GOP for decades, that also parroted the $34T number. Umm OK sure. So now enough people are repeating it... still not truth.

I wish all of my Lefty friends, including your bro, saw me as a "screaming leftist" when in fact they all insist that I'm a Trump henchman Righty. No shit. NO ONE WILL ACCEPT ANY MIDDLE GROUND because they all are having too much fun pointing fingers at the opposite direction calling them all manner of nonsense.

Grasp that yet?
Care in the least?
Yeah no I didn't expect so...

 

OK apples to bananas is what you offer..

Note 1) BO as POTUS, did bow too low too often, however there were ZERO indictments of himself or ANY staff member for 8 years. Indictments under Trump are at 35 and rising and there is no sign of fewer future indictments as Trump surrounds himself with rats unaccustomed to scrutiny in the light of day. So too much bowing too low.. but an otherwise more ethical human.
Note 2) .."Nothing about the lies and shame on the Clintons" Holy cow did you not watch any TV that decade? Or short term memories are fused over? Never heard of Monica Lewinsky then? Never heard of the GOP trying to hold impeachment proceedings on Slick Willie? How'd you miss all those 'peep' show thrill hours of shrill howling media protest? And not solely from Faux News either, all media was reporting on it.

So BO avoiding scrutiny because he acted more mature and responsible than Trump? Everyone acts more mature than Trump.
So Slick Willie was exposed to impeachment procedings, even if you failed to watch. Or remember. America still remains as fond of Slick Willie as it remains disgusted with uber bkitch Hillary.

Remembering does make me the enemy.

 

Let loose the Kraaken!

 

no i can't grasp it since your intellect is so far superior to mine
maybe liberals like you will understand one day just how little people invest in your condescension anymore
can't blame you for trying though it worked for a while didn't it?

 

It is a buzzword when many don’t understand the true definition of socialism. ‘Democratic socialism’ is simply a poorly named platform that doesn’t actually require socialism. However, Fox News wants you to think otherwise and will use lies and scare tactics to achieve their message. One example is Sean Hannity outlining the ‘horrors’ of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s [socialist] platform. Except, none of her policies bore any resemblance to actual socialism. In fact, neither of the Democratic Socialist of America candidates I am aware of are proposing nationalizing industries, for example. They are proposing an expansion of the social safety net, which is a liberal policy, one that socialists would embrace but not something that is inherently socialist. Ironically, we have seen actual ideas that resemble socialism from this administration. Number one being the $12B handout to the farmers affected by Trump’s tariffs. And number two being Trump’s proposal to nationalize coal plants. Both of these are far more ‘socialist’ than universal health care, ensuring big corporations pay their fair share of taxes, providing social welfare, free tuition etc.