FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    I care about summer and spring and would love for there not to be a winter but there is nothing I can do about it.
    So spending more than a thought on that notion is like candy and spice and everything nice.
    Powers and Principalities kinda thing.
    Above our paygrade.
     
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  2. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Taxation is a game.
    Nobody forces you to keep playing the game.
    You play it because you want to.
    And if you play it then maybe why not play to win?
    A game has a ruleset. If you master the ruleset you win the game.
    You end up with all the money and all the hotels.

    Hard working people are dying.
    That is why it is the end.
    Without the working class the Noble, Priestly and Warrior classes lose their shit and at that point the society creates the 5th class.
    The untouchables.
    You don't want to even touch 'these' people. They are trash, garbage, deplorable.
    They don't deserve anything but to serve.

    The working people are dying because the middle class needs 200k to survive a year like Cap'n said.
    Working class people cant get there.
    The only way a lot of working class people make it towards middle class is thanks to the socialist programs and pork that fund so many working class peoples jobs.

    The working class people are dying because homes, schooling, children and everything associated with being happy in America costs more money that they can hope to make during a lifetime.

    Working class people are dying because every few years the amount of jobs that are replaced by machines is multiplied.

    Then the US is also the country that allows the most immigration both legal and illegal in the world. By large margins.
    And the vast majority of those people are the 4th class and the most vulnerable people in America. become the 5th class in the future.
    Immigrants without papers are the most vulnerable people and the most oppressed minority.
    But when the middle class gives out the 4th class will become victims of the noble, priestly, and warrior classes and become the untouchables.

    To this group some folks want to bring in more folks to suffer and become indentured servants which is what the 5th class is BTW.
    Who would benefit from bringing in more immigrants to become servants?
    Not the working class.
    Much less the poor.
    They would be the first ones to lose their jobs.
    In the past the liberals would have hated this.
    Even socialist union leaders from way back when new better.
    Bringing in more illegal immigrants creates damage to the law of supply and demand. It breaks natural law.
    Every single salesman knows the law of supply and demand and how it is as true as the pressure on your shoulders from above.
    And if your business is human trafficking which is what unions essentially are then you know that flooding the market is bad for business.
    Because it means the people you represent will make less money or lose their jobs.
    These the most vulnerable people in America.
     
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  3. TAFNAC

    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    MUH ROADS! (google it as typed). lol.

    I normally wouldn't bother with serious posts in this thread because it's all been said a bunch of times, but since you went full MUH ROADS, I'll educate you a little bit.

    Your implied argument (even if you don't realize you're making it) is that only a coercive government could provide those services you describe above. Of course this incorrect.

    If a service has value, people will choose to pay for it. Roads can be financed by their users via use fees, tolls, or other similar means that don't require coercive measures. If you want your fucking roads, pay for them like a good little consumer and don't use them to justify an immoral, murderous, leviathan of a state.
    Similarly, fire departments could be financed via insurance or other voluntary means.
    Law and order is the best example of how government and it's geographic monopoly on force goes wrong. Security services should be financed by insurance, voluntary subscriptions, or small communities banding together voluntarily to pay for the level of security they deem necessary. The value of removing coercion from "law and order" and having it voluntary financed by the people being protected is that it would also almost certainly reduce the militarization of the police and the eliminate prosecution of victimless crimes.

    Taxation is theft. It's bullshit to state anything else. The only argument you've made is that you like some of the things you get back after you're stolen from. That doesn't make it not theft.
    If I steal $100 from you and buy you a beer, I've still stolen from you. Drinking the beer doesn't make it not theft.

    It's exactly the same as paying protection money to the mob. Only the government mob tricks people like you into being happy victims by giving you a few things you like and the illusion of control with democracy theater every couple years.

    It most certainly does not.
    The concept of human rights has been erroneously brought up in this thread a few times. One of the few true human rights, and the foundational one is that of self-ownership. A person (and no one else) owns themselves, and therefore owns the product of their labor. No one has a right to the product of my labor, unless I voluntarily give it to them, or voluntarily trade it for something I value.
    Taxes violate the fundamental right of self-ownership, and are indeed theft.
     
  4. rube

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    When the Romans sacked Jerusalem they were amazed how the people all paid their taxes willingly.
    They asked the high priests for the secret to getting the people to fork over their taxes so readily.
    Roman citizens paid their taxes usually at sword point because some tribune had found them and forced him to pay up.
    So the priest told the Roman general a little story about Abraham and the King of Salem.

    In our secular society what allows us to have the freedoms and what defends our god given rights is the armed forces of the united states military. They are the right arm of the constitution.
    Most of our taxes go to pay for that.
    And there is a lot of graft of course.
    Without a high class there couldn't be a middle and they all get fat off the graft.
    Trickle down economics really works. But the middle class hogs all that trickles. The classes below them only get the sweat that trickles off the middle class ass.

    The difference being that in the bible it begins as a way of one man saying thanks to another man who had done him a solid.
    Except that the man Abraham was giving the tribute to happened to be the King of Salem.
    Because Abraham knew that he could not have gained so much treasure if not for the "protection" of the King of Salem.
    That protection helped Abraham and his men fight off the Kings of rival city states who were invading the city of refuge. These rival kings taking advantage of a weakness invaded at a time when Abraham and his men were passing by.
    They decided to fight these marauders and ended up with lots of booty. Then gave a tenth of it all to the king of the city they has saved.

    If this was a story in a book it would not make sense.
    So the winners pay tribute to the guy the winner saved instead of the other way around?

    Its more of a lesson where Abraham is saying that he is in the land of the King of Salem and whatever good fortunes happen to him while doing business in the land of the King of Salem must be due to the conducive environment created by such a great king.
    Nobody told Abraham that he should give the King of Salem a nice tip.
    He just thought it was the cool thing to do.

    And that set a precedent. Or it synthesized something cool that happens to humanity in these situations. Sometimes. Depending on the humans and probably the situation too.

    That precedent is that when you are in someones house you always pay respect.
    You are gracious to the servers.
    And you always leave a tip.
    At least 10%
    At least.
    Nobody is forcing you.
    But don't be a dick about it.
    Put in your buck.

    That is what taxes is supposed to be.
    But then they go and fucked it up.
     
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  5. BigDaddyKaine

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    The democrats darling Robert O'Rourke
     
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  6. CapnTreee

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    Every. Word. Of. This.
    In fact every word of the entire post. Genuine Thanks @rube because others listen through different ears to each of us.
     
  7. CapnTreee

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    Yeah I see that focus in me too, citing Faux News more than I'd like to make a point. Alas it is the Faux News words/stories that the DSP crowd prefers to trumpet. Thus one is forced into certain 'hollow' observations peerly through that lens.

    Also note how little anyone at DSP notices when I post of stupid Left statements.

    The best purpose of 'the press' is when comparisons are used. Watching a single outlet provides one but a single viewpoint.
    Rarely useful, even if found entertaining. And let me acknowledge openly that Fox does provide some talented entertainment.

    Notice that I dodge little though nearly answer I provide is battled not with reason and logic but with more erroneous Faux sound bites.
    And the cycle repeats.
    As if "I" rep mainstream media... and no one else does???
    I deplore Huff Post hack pieces, MSNBC is lurid in its frothing hypocrisy and yet the loon on top declares that AP and Reuters are fake too. Yeah sure.. who's wearing the spray on orange tan?

    I very much prefer your periodic rants because they are better thought through.. but I digress

    Thanks... was the thought
     
  8. CapnTreee

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    The CAPS issue does come with my voice. Ask those who've met me, I do periodically communicate in all CAPS in person too.
    FFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCKKKK YYYYOOOOOOOOOUUUUU to @irish to make that point. (Loves ya ya homo.)

    However if one were foolish enough to squander time looking at my posts they would see that my enormous volumes of texts tend to use CAPS in a sparse enough manner as to try to make my point.. many times to those who'd choose to ignore anything not in CAPS.

    Still I will attempt to constrain this if it distracts your focus.

    That said, your logic about Trump being a closet Dodgers fan is darkly sad especially when he openly professes to adore the uber succe$$ful Yankees. But you provide a rationale to follow so who know? And you didn't even look up my detailed heritage LOL.
     
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  9. CapnTreee

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    So true.. and it isn't stopping anytime soon.
     
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    Hard to argue but I'm still expecting one. #whiteprivilage
     
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  12. CapnTreee

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    True. The incorrectness was solely in asuming that was my implied point.
    I do. You do too. Not much argument support yet.
    As we do today. My city contracts with the OC Sheriffs for exactly those patrol rates we desire to be what the helicopter moms deem is safe. Every year. So?
    Pollyanna much?
    Yup. You too. Our 'mob' has "A" bombs, cruise missiles and all sorts of death to wield... on those of darker skin slowly walking our way. While not specifically trying to dash all of your Liberatarian hopes because I like 'some' of those too, but I'm not sure if you've made any points.
    Yeah I guess not @TAFNAC . It seems @rube has figured this all out long ago. Even my particular group of uber Lefty friends are all in on a strong military... how else could they have the "freedom of self-ownership" to protest such banal things?
     
  13. CapnTreee

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    So I'm guessing that your post intends to support Ted Cruz? :crazy:


    Really? I'm guessing that any 23 minutes taped in any candidates office is going to include 99% of that or they are not a politician seeking elected office.

    But still Ted Cruz? I'd be thankful if they joked about stakes and silver bullets with this two faced vampire. Did you see him suck up to Trump last week? Grovel would be a better word. All in the house that Bushes built. Wow.

    Partial disclosure: I have friends in TX not thrilled with either choice but are leaning away from lyin Ted
     
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  14. CapnTreee

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    Yup. What @rube said.

    We always bring a bottle of wine to someones house gracious enough to feed us. Who doesn't?
     
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    Wrong!!

    You get elected President!!
     
  16. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    exactly
     
  17. CapnTreee

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    Dad at McDonald's with kids shoots and kills masked gunman who opened fire
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    An Alabama father dining with his children at McDonald's fatally shot a masked man who entered the fast food restaurant and opened fire


    JIM BROWN / AP

    An father dining with his children at McDonald's in Birmingham, Alabama, fatally shot a masked man who entered the fast food restaurant and opened fire, CBS affiliate WIAT reports.

    Birmingham Police responded to the McDonald's at around 10:45 p.m. Sunday after receiving reports that multiple people had been shot. When an employee opened the door to let a father and his two sons out of the restaurant, a masked man entered. The man then began shooting. Investigators say it is not clear whether he intended to rob the McDonald's or was targeting someone inside.

    The father then opened fire on the gunman, fatally wounding him. The unidentified dad and one of his kids, a minor, were also struck, but do not have life-threatening injuries.

    The investigation is still ongoing, but based on the preliminary information, the father won't face any charges, the station reports.




    Hmmmm wonder how I missed this news? Oh by trying to avoid TV news..

    Props to the father!!
     
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  18. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    because bad people doing bad things gets more interestbetter ratings than good people doing good things
    #mediasensationalism
     
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    and we can't have positive stories about guns preventing gun violence when we have the 2nd amendment to abolish
    msm wouldn't report this anymore than they'd actually question selling uranium to russia under a democratic admin
    not on the agenda
     
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  20. rube

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    Politics is not for us.
    Its a shell game.
    A royal dutch shell game.
    There is enough to do within our life than to worry about those type of things.
    And by worry I mean spend more time thinking about it that it takes to take a regular shit.
     
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