FEDIT POLITICS Thread

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1896011362951700486

Summary: All important Epstein documents are held in New York and they are hiding the documents from Pam Bondi and Kash Patel. Pam is going to fire the people withholding the documents when they find out who is doing it.

My take: Fuck being fired, they need to go to prison.

 

I am sick of hearing about Ukraine
I am sick of funding Ukraine with weapons
I am sick of funding Ukraine with money
I do not want the Ukrainians to be railroaded by Russia
Zelensky needs to sign the fucking mineral deal, throw on a suit, say thank you, then shut the fuck up forever

Putin is a bad guy
Zelensky is a bad guy too
Ukraine is not exactly the beacon of a golden democracy nor innocence

 

I was a liberal the first 28 years or so of my life based almost entirely on one reason and that was war
I'm sick of people dying so rich elites can pocket the spoils while waving a flag in our face
the images of smiling senators drooling and greeting dick dancer like a rock star willing to hold his bawls and suck him off sickens me
these evil warmongering fucks will hopefully live forever w the stench of the bodies they burned for some dollars

 

Imo, that televised chastisement of Z should not have been for public consumption or viewing is a better word. Trump scolding him him with what "should have been with all the help and money" was so fucking sad. Even if true, that condescension is for behind closed doors. It came off to me like the principal and vice -principal reprimanding the class clown/ malcontent.
It looked so staged and theatrical and cultivated awkwardness, imo.
More importantly, many people looked at this and left with a bad taste in their mouth...like me. I sure didn't get "great leader" out of public dressing down of the head of a nation at war. A nation at war with a psychotic fucking murdering fellow Russian, too.
It's not 'The Apprentice' any more, Donny.
I was soooo glad to get rid of that of that USA's blood sucking vampire of 50 years, Biden.
But to be truthful, looking at shit like this clownshow makes me very disappointed in the way Trump is doing things. I guess they have enough experts out there to tell us what/ why they are doing stuff. Indeed, tell us how and what we should think. And come away with.
Everything has to be analyzed and dissected piece by piece to maybe then get why this administration did whatever about whatever. Fodder for everyone, ( like on here) to discuss and be didactic to "who didn't get it"...I find it very head shaking...it seems, to this old guy anyway, that they are having just a fun time playing perception Twister with Americans...under the guise of transparency ?
Haven't we had enough mind fucking in recent years ?

 

im an expert at fodder
i have been growing different types of grasses to learn what is the best feed for the animals
the bees love the mustard but not the wheat as much
now im growing lots of fenugreek and cilantro to see how they like the taste of that

a leader that does things in mass or runs as fast as he and his fastest animals can run is not a good leader
because a leader is a leader for all not just for the strong and young and the rich and the powerful
when you go fast and do things at massive scale you will leave behind the weaker and older and sicker animals
the predators will get to the old sick weak animals and tear them apart
these losses of course are considered mysterious unforeseen oopsies
collateral damage that you cant really avoid
unless you go a little slower
and do things at a pace that the rest of the pack can follow
if you lose the old and sick and weak animals you win the race
but you lose your base
and a debased pack of animals quickly turn into a roaming pack of hungry predators
looking for greener grasses

 

Nobody is more performative in all this than Z.

 

So after we own 50% of the mineral rights of Ukraine there is no way that Putin will continue the war.
The US will normalize diplomatic relations with Russia.
The next step after that is a new Russia/US economic relationship based on that financial security.
That needs to happen before a peace deal can even be approached.
Only after that happens will Trump allow more military/financial help to Ukraine.
Help to rebuild the country and protect US financial interests.

There has been no peace negotiations at all. Zero.
Trump will only negotiate with Putin until he can get a win.
Everything he is doing is performative because Ukraine is a loser.
He knows he holds all the cards which means he doesnt have to play.
He is good.
Everyone else has to play their cards.
He gets to talk and influence but keep all his cards close to his vest.
Everyone else has to figure out how to play and use up all their cards.
Then Trump comes in with the right card to play.
The trump card.

USAID was an international anti Russia (specifically Putin) shadow empire run by the state dept and CIA in initiating regime change in countries that are or might be pro Russia/Putin, etc...
This was probably goes back to at least the Bush family and involved all the democrat presidents as well not just republicans. This shit is bipartisan money tree for serpents of all stripes.

American Democracy is supposed to be the imposing our will on other countries diplomatically then securing their loyalty through financial ties. That is the Pax Americana Trump is going for.

If its all about oil and minerals and land rights the US and Russia have longtime experience at this. And if the money of both countries is no longer based on gold but on oil then strategically both countries should be allies in the northwestern world against the Persian Gulf and China/Indian Ocean oil producers in the southeastern world.

Britain/Europe has to decide what side they want to be on.

 

Yeah, I know where I am. it's not like I just joined. I pretty much get the generalt flow here
All I can respond to what I saw is the truth. My truth, that is.
If it all works out the way Rube says, then I got the wrong message or whatever from it. I hope that is the outcome.
But I don't really want to witness the " you're a fucking failure and you should've done better than what you've done" with the 2nd honcho on the point. If behind closed doors he cursed out his mother, that's fine, but the public dressing down, no matter what happens, looked like a cheap stunt which imo, is classless considering the thousands of deaths of innocents.
Just getting it done, should that be the outcome, would be so much better...we just don't need the public excoriation. I believe he'd earn way more respect that way than what everyone saw.
Just my tuppence.
Maybe I'm old fashioned or not with it. But some shit that goes on, I want worked out in private.
But, I guess if that what it takes to get it done then, that public arena, I've absolutely got it wrong... Whatever gravitas there is behind that...after all, it is a baseball message board.

 

yeah there is a gap between two extremes of thinking here
from your end the more old fashioned and liberal that doesnt want to cut anyones head off in public theoretically speaking
to the other end of the more neo conservative libertarian types who would like to bring back public executions via guillotine
i tend to side with caution here and agree with you older more refined boys but unfortunately there are more of them and less of you
i dont know who you voted for or for what but most like the majority demographic of our venerable sports club would say "bully to you" to exactly this type of show of shock and awe

but this stuff is probably running on rails either way

 

UK and dickdancerdictator had this set up before that meeting ever happened
no way he just runs off immediately to UK and puts that together unless it was already set
big winners are blackrock and the arms dealers don't doubt that
Rogan, Gabbard and RFKjr lay it out straight here
its always been about the grift of our tax money

https://x.com/sabback/status/1896493035653075070

 

Nah...I'm not a liberal and stated many times I abhored how the previous administration steered this country down a useless, grotesque path. I hated them unequivocally. No redeeming qualities at all.
I just don't find Trump to be a great man, but a better choice than any Dem available that's for sure.
In fact, I find some of the things Trump says and the way he does things an excercise in sophmoric petulance. And sometimes he's flat out classless.
For me, he's the political equivalent of Fernando Tatis, Jr running around the bases after a HR, doing that ignorant, self congratulatory, over -confident stutter step...my bb analogy.
I'm far from a liberal...very far. But the theater in the oval is demeaning, imo.
Additionally, the smugness disgusts me actually. He can be flat out crude. Cringeable. If that's a valid term.
But in the end, he's got the bully pulpit...and I recognize his way as possibly the complete opposite of woke.
Maybe it's just what we need.
We'll see...

 

Weird. Board blocks me from typing Trump as anti-war in this thread.

What - is the NYTimes moderating the board now?

 

Trump is anti-war

 

liberal liberal liberal!

 

Yes. He is. But the MSM will never say that.

It's weird. The legacy media is 100%, dyed in the wool, liars. And anyone above 4 knows it. Yet ... nearly half the country & 90% of Hollywood still believes the lies. Or they don't care because orange man bad.

What a joke. We barely deserve our republic, given how utterly fucked the populace has become

 

you know what's demeaning?
insinuating there's a nice ocean we've never crossed to die in strange lands
iirc correctly you're a veteran so how does that sit w you?
fuck that little sock puppet wanting more money to keep this war going and fill up more body bags
this world is programmed for war and if the machine isn't rolling people start to freak out
thank God there's not a dead body still in Washington signing checks w our money to continue it
nothing about that meeting made me cringe even a little
looking forward to what tonights speech lays out

 

Time, I think, for a ban.

 

Yup, I'll take him, too. Not much choice.
I don't need a " politician". type guy....I abhor them actually. I grewup in the second most corrupt county in the USA after Cook in IL. Crooked bastards since forever...going back to even before Frank " I am the law" Hague of Jersey City. See: Boardwalk Empire.
Hudson Co. , NJ...in fact Menendez, that criminal bag of shit just sentenced, was mayor of the city I grew up in. And both my parents voted for him...my mother simply because my father was a Dem. Everybody was. That's just the way it was.
Guess I'm looking for Abraham Lincoln in my old age...and just ain't gonna get' 'im.
Shit I know Ukraine is no moral paradise. Just ask the two villains, Joe and Hunter, those two rich-from-there pukes.
But you start thinking about the honest, hard working average Stans in the Ukraine...what do they think about that world wide public beat down of their leader ? When you look at your children's faces and see their reactions to watching that, the confusion in their eyes, what do you tell them ? Don't forget: their neighbours and friends have died.
It just coulda been done in private, that's all I'm staying...