You're supposed to see improvement and growth as you work season to season towards a title. Based on that, this season was a failure. A step down. NLCS to NLDS isn't something to be proud of. Mattingly is a fucking dipshit. I'm against anyone that wasn't a Dodgers at this point unless it's Gardenhire or Washington (a former Dodger). So if you don't go after Kennedy. Then go with someone that bleeds the color and knows the game. Wallach Scioscia (if he becomes available) Lopes Hershiser Yeager And if anyone is thinking it.............. Hell no to Dusty!
Manny Ramirez for manager. We are a fucking joke, might as well put the head jester in charge. 6-1 game one. Fucking gaybo's.
I really like NZ's post , sarcasm and all of it. Because in the end, we will all be looking at DBB's scrunched up face again next year, contemplating in his brain, what to do to fuck up the game...any ex-servicemen here? I know there are...FUBAR. And he'll be using whatever flotsam and jetsam that Mr. Scrubadubdub, gets for him for that BP. Use them poorly, too. Anyone good on the team will be diluted/negated by inferior moves and non-use and plain ordinary Indiana stubborness. Let's face it, what we have achieved, which is nothing, but considered "elite" and top shelf by so many, put the asses in the seats, and in the end, the financial aspect is what counts. Some great individual stuff along the way....good for those guys...really. But what about the real deal? I know, I know...Kasten wants a winner...so I've heard and read 1000 times...well, we'll see. We'll see if he makes any moves to try and ensure at least one championship in this fucking century. Because if he stays with the same proven loser formula that we've had for way to long, then the price of a seat in Dodger stadium and how much a hot dog is will be the brass ring. As it has for over a quarter of a century now. How about trying something else for the fans? What is it about the Dodgers that they are so afraid or reticent to make a move like other organizations do? Sure they were the forefront in BB history with Jackie and Nomo and so much more...but that has faded into a warm and comfortable place in BB and Dodger lore...where it should be. So what's the deal now? We aren't that good anymore, boyos-news flash! We don't have Branch Rickey and Walt Alston or Leo Durocher, etc.; they're dead-time to move away from the easy chair of Dodger past glories and wait and wait for it to maybe happen again. It's not gonna...EXTRA! EXTRA! Read all about it! See: the goddam Giants and the goddam Cardinals... And we all know, it's Kasten and the group that fires the GM...so the ball is in his fucking court.
yea, Cabrera might be the guy now..especially since JJ Hardy inked an extension with BMore. fuck. i wanted Hardy with us.
exactly. if they keep this clown car intact they might as well hire crazy clown Guillen as manager to drive it. at least he can manage a baseball game.
In defense of Dodgers General Manager Ned Colletti Ned Colletti Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times General Manager Ned Colletti is said to be on the hot seat after the Dodgers' exit from the playoffs. By Steve Dilbeck Lose in disappointing fashion and you get unhappy. You get emotional. You want explanations and accountability. Mostly, you want heads to roll. And so it is with the Dodgers, a team with a record payroll built to conquer the World Series, which instead was rather unceremoniously dumped in the first round of the playoff by the Cardinals. This must be someone’s fault! Someone has to take the blame! The favorite fall guy is now Ned Colletti, the general manager many Dodgers fans could never fully embrace because of this Giants roots. Reports have him out any moment. And, sorry, Dodgers fans, that’s just wrong. This is not a man who deserves the door. Colletti may find it strange I’m defending him, given we’ve always had a something of a tenuous relationship. It’s part of my job to bring a critical eye and offer opinions on all-things Dodgers. And being a highly competitive guy, he did not always do his Snoopy happy-feet dance when there were criticism. Certainly, he’s got some wrong over the last nine years but what general manager hasn’t? And I understand the perspective that he’s had his shot and it’s time to move on. But to lay all the blame on him for what transpired this season, or what did not transpire, is not fair. The biggest criticism is understandably the failure of the bullpen. Middle relief, which Colletti used to pick up on the cheap and cobble together in effective fashion every year, was the team’s great failing. The Dodgers spent over $35 million on their bullpen this season and never could figure out an effective late-inning bridge to closer Kenley Jansen. Yet when the bullpen was constructed in the off-season you didn’t hear any complaints. It looked like a team strength. Colletti had three former closers in the bullpen to get the ball to Jansen. Now people might say the key term there is “former,” that they lost their jobs for a reason. True, though Brian Wilson was coming off an abbreviated season in which he had an 0.66 ERA in 18 games, was unscored upon in six more postseason games and was a highly effective eight-inning setup man. He was signed one year for $10 million, with a $10-million option. Coming back from elbow surgery, the Dodgers had every right to believe his arm would be even stronger this season. Instead, he went 2-4 with a 4.66 ERA and a 1.61 WHIP in 61 unpredictable games. Was that Colletti’s fault? The Dodgers were without a closer at the end of the 2012 season when Brandon League posted a 0.40 ERA over his last 21 appearances and converted all six of his save opportunities. The Dodgers signed him to a generous three-year, $22.5-million deal in the off-season to be their closer. He quickly blew up the next year. Yet League actually wasn’t bad last season, finishing 2-3 with a 2.57 ERA. He was unscored upon in four postseason appearances. Chris Perez was a base $2.3 million flier taken for one year on a right-hander coming off a down season, who had nonetheless saved 123 games in the last four years. This is some wild gamble? Meanwhile, last year’s young, hard-throwing relievers -- Chris Withrow and Jose Dominguez -- were injured. Paco Rodriguez was injured Aug. 3, did not return until there were two weeks left in the season and was left off the postseason roster. Paul Maholm, the long man, was lost to a knee injury. Sometimes things happen you have no control over. By the trading deadline, Colletti knew what was up with the bullpen yet no move was made to shore it up. The Dodgers were unwilling to trade their top three prospects -- Joc Pederson, Corey Seager, Julio Urias and as it turns out others as well -- to add relief help to a team otherwise primed to make a World Series run. Think that call came from Colletti, who had to know his job security was less than solid if the team disappointed? It had to come from ownership, or more specifically, likely team President Stan Kasten. The Times’ Bill Plaschke implied in his Friday column on Colletti that ownership was unhappy that he had spent so much money on older veterans, including Andre Ethier. That’s pretty funny. The new ownership was already on board and wanted to make a splash and statement to the fans when they OK’d a five-year, $85-million deal to Ethier. And they (read: Kasten) helped engineer the blockbuster trade that brought over a billion in new salaries in the deal for Adrian Gonzalez. You can’t pat yourselves on the back for that deal one minute and then lambaste it the next because you have too many highly paid outfielders. Colletti is only free to form the team he wants to the extent Kasten allows. Colletti has led the Dodgers to the playoffs five times in his nine seasons. He has survived penny-pinching Frank McCourt and cost-is-no-object Guggenheim. Every call hasn’t worked, but show me a single GM whose calls have. I know you're upset, but he doesn’t deserve to be the fall guy du jour.
anybody else NOT tryin to hear that shit from Steve Dilbeck? especially the part where he says that Colletti can't blamed for not giving up one of our Top 3 prospects for a reliever and that the order came from the top. really? who gives a shit where the order came from..you shouldn't have to give up a Top 3 prospect on your farm to get a decent fuckin reliever. and any motherfuckin pitcher coming off Tommy John is buyer beware, especially older guys. you don't just " expect Wilson to get stronger, so you give him a player option in his contract. " bullshit. the fact that League wasn't used when we had the lead, or they didn't at least give League a try in the 9th - with Kenley as the bridge - is another indictment on Colletti because Mattingly is his guy.
what a fucken hypocrite says it's the bullpen's fault for not getting it done and then implies that we're to blame by not offering complaints in the offseason hey idiot (yes you, dilbeck) a big part of the gm's job is addressing needs as they arise there's a reason there's a trade deadline -- because unforeseen shit happens, and you either do what you have to do to improve the team or you settle for another early exit from the postseason when one of your team's leader drops a "world series or bust" guantlet, you do whatever you can to make it happen roberto carmona and kevin correia??? fuck you!
won't give up our Top 3 prospects for a good reliever..good decision. but will they not give up a late 1st round pick to sign Robertson away from the Yankees? AMEN GOTDAMNIT AMEN!
completely different scenarios... giving up any of the top 3 for a reliever would have been idiotic anyways
just watchin this O's/Royals game and thinkin about all the possible moves that could be made..which brought me to AGon. if the Dodgers dealt AGon and signed VMart to say a 3yr/60M deal to play 1B it'd be a downgrade defensively, but what are the other negatives there? VMart's 3yrs older than AGon and we have no real idea of knowing if VMart's offense would be affected by him having to pick up a glove say 120-130 times in the regular season. but what if VMart could be the same offensive player @ 1B? what he brings offensively is obviously more versatility than AGon because he's a switch hitter, a better 2-strike hitter than AGon, a better contact guy than AGon ( as he really doesn't strike out much), the shift doesn't affect VMart like it does AGon, a better AVG/OBP guy than AGon, he's walked more than AGon the last 4yrs, and he's been a better hitter than AGon's been in the playoffs. if the Dodgers made the switch between the two, they also probably wouldn't be tied to either one in 2018. also, SVS could get 30-40 starts ( maybe more) @ 1B to give the older VMart a rest in the regular season and so SVS's bat could get more tuning and help him get better. again, we'd take a hit defensively, but i just wonder how much better the offense would be in the short term if VMart were hitting 3rd instead of AGon. VMart is a great hitter. not good. great. i've watched my share of Tigers' game as well and there's just a high level of toughness that VMart brings. would you be for signing VMart and packaging say Puig and AGon together and sending them to Miami for Stanton, Nate Eovaldi and maybe a young bullpen arm? it wouldn't be a popular move since AGon is big among the Mexicanos, but the starting lineup would still look pretty damn good.. L Joc CF R Kemp RF S VMart 1B R Stanton LF R Hanley SS R Uribe 3B R Martin C L Dee 2B pretty damn good starting lineup. an upgrade in approach with VMart and Stanton able and WILLING to draw walks. major upgrade in power with Stanton. Dee in the 8-hole to cause some headaches and help Joc out when the lineup flips over. Joc leading off..showed me a lot with his patient approach..get him to focus on turning all those warning track shots into line drives and he could be good there..Kemp and VMart behind him to get him some pitches to hit as well. Eovaldi could serve as our swing guy and a young power arm that moves to the bullpen come playoff time..sort of like Carlos Martinez is with STL. it's pretty intriguing. i think Miami would have to move on that return for Stanton. if we get Friedman from Tampa, replacing AGon might be looked at since Friedman is very familiar with what the shift can do to an aging lefty's effectiveness.
i know. i'm just asking if people think the Dodgers would be willing to give up a late 1st round pick to sign Robertson away from the Yankees
i'm just going off reports saying that they are likely gonna give him a QO. these League and Wilson contracts may or may not have an impact on how much they're willing to spend on a reliever and especially one where a 1st round has to be given up. but what else are they gonna do, but use that draft pick to take an arm that ends up being a bullpen arm anyway? it's just intriguing, but they almost have to sign Andrew Miller this winter.
Love this guy and hope it is true. Him and the Blue Jay's GM Alex Greek Last Name would be my choices. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/10/nl-west-notes-friedman-dodgers-ishikawa.html If the Dodgers move on from General Manager Ned Colletti, their top target appears to be Rays GM Andrew Friedman, according to Bill Plaschke of the Los Angeles Times. A lot of great things happened under Colletti’s watch, including Clayton Kershaw becoming a Cy Young Award winner and Dee Gordon becoming an All-Star, but the new Dodgers owners view him as someone who gave away too much money to older players and built a shoddy bullpen.
plashke needs to be beaten how does/did ned have anything to do with kersh or dee's emergence? how about giving credit where credit's due?... to honeycutt, lopes, wallach, mcgwire, even mattingly nice how he conveniently neglected to mention consistently falling short of expectations "under ned's watch" idiot
Holy shit, is Plashke always that fucking dumb? Credit to the posters on DSP, Kershaw became a cy young pitcher while we posted here. We had the same affect on Kershaw becoming a Cy Young winner as Ned, and Dee having a good season...wtf is he smoking? What a stupid and weak attempt to defend our incompetent GM.
