okay guys time to speculate/dream who on the o's or brewers would you want?... for the record, i'd rather hold onto harang and trade lilly or cap but since harang pretty much said he didn't want to pitch out of the pen while both lilly and cap said they'd both do whatever the team needed... i just hate the idea of trading away a guy coming off two consecutive <3.65 era seasons Harang pitches with O's, Brewers scouts watching With Dodgers' surplus of pitching, veteran righty emerges as likely trade piece By Ken Gurnick/MLB.com | 3/4/2013 2:08 P.M. ETGLENDALE, Ariz. -- With scouts from the Brewers and Orioles watching, Dodgers starter Aaron Harang threw three scoreless innings in a Minor League game Monday at Camelback Ranch. As one of eight Dodgers starting pitchers with guaranteed contracts for 2013, Harang nonetheless is in a position of fighting for a job this year, despite a solid '12 season in which he went 10-10 with a 3.61 ERA and 179 2/3 innings. Harang has emerged as a likely trade piece if and when the Dodgers deal from their pitching surplus. He's proven durable with a relatively modest contract ($5 million this year, a mutual option for 2014 at $8 million or a $2 million buyout) that should be appealing to a club in need of veteran starting pitching. Harang threw 44 pitches in Monday's game and another 16 in the bullpen with pitching coach Rick Honeycutt and manager Don Mattingly watching. The rest of the club had a day off Monday, but Harang threw to keep all starters on a five-day cycle. "I felt good," said Harang. "I pitched the third inning out of the stretch, because in the second inning with a runner on second, I kind of rushed a little." Harang said he also worked on a curveball that had been the focus of a bullpen session last week with Sandy Koufax. "I talked to Sandy before he left about it, and I threw some good pitches against the Cubs last week and I focused on that today -- getting out in front, find the right feel and trust the grip," he said. Harang said he didn't mind getting in his work on the Minor League side. "Over here, it's almost harder," he said. "They're looking to ambush you a little [by swinging early in the count]. So you've got to do your work and not focus on the outcome." __
Brewers, Orioles Eyeing Harang By Ben Nicholson-Smith [March 4 at 3:32pm CST] Scouts from the Brewers and Orioles watched as Aaron Harang pitched in a minor league game today, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports. Harang, who doesn’t have a clear role on the Dodgers’ pitching staff at this point, pitched three scoreless innings. The 34-year-old appears to be a likely trade candidate given his team’s pitching depth. Harang started 31 games for the Dodgers last year, posting a 3.61 ERA with 6.6 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9 in 179 2/3 innings. The 34-year-old will earn $7MM in 2013 and his contract includes a $7MM mutual option with a $2MM buyout for 2014. The Brewers and Orioles have relatively young rotations that include considerable uncertainty, so it’s not surprising to see these clubs linked to Harang. Both Milwaukee and Baltimore expressed interest in free agent starters this winter but ultimately stuck with mostly internal options. Teams such as the Indians, Twins, Pirates and Mets were linked to Harang earlier this offseason. __
of course harang is the target because his big ugly right handed ass is durable and consistent. dump those fragile lefties first. i give him the ball before bills.
No way at this point, you make a move on Bills and replace him with HarangUtan....but with previously untried pitchers in the roster, I don't think Harang is as expendable as up not as marvelous as everyone thinks he is. A tape of Ryu striking out Chan Ho after a full count doesn't make me compare him to any HoF pitchers just yet. Maybe Tommy laSorda , if you get what I mean. Offing Harang could be our annual (at least) bad move. And I don't think we are getting offered either of those guys mentioned above....are you kidding? There's also this: Utan is getting paid nice mo0ney to be around....if the team needs him somewhere until it's time for him to step up, too fucking bad. Deal with it, primate. Why do we always have to taint lick every damn crybaby out there? Just tell him to STFU, somebody. How about you, Magic? He can always get a job as a French model if he doesn't like it.... Uh....Bonjour.
fwiw especially the first one from today this carfado guy isn't always the most reliable source not sure why teams would have more interest in a guy coming off surgery instead of two healthy guys... THIS MORNING: According to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe, there is more interest in Dodgers lefty Ted Lilly than fellow surplus starters Aaron Harang and Chris Capuano. The Dodgers are holding on to all of them until they know that Chad Billingsley is fully recovered after undergoing treatments to his elbow this offseason.YESTERDAY: The Dodgers "do not appear close" to trading one of their starting pitchers, writes Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times. Since the Dodgers cannot ship Aaron Harang, Chris Capuano or Ted Lilly to the minors without those players' consent, teams may simply wait for the Dodgers, who don't have roster space for all their starting pitching, to become more desperate. The Orioles, Brewers and Pirates "have expressed interest" in the Dodgers' surplus arms, Shaikin notes, but the Rangers are not a likely trade partner. __
The Dodgers have an embarrassment of riches on the mound and it stands to reason that, at some point, they will move at least one of their extra starters for other assets. Earlier today,Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reported that Ted Lilly is drawing more interest than Chris Capuano and Aaron Harang at this stage, despite missing most of last season. Here's more out of Los Angeles and other notes from the NL West.. Rival officials believe that other clubs will wait for the Dodgers to be backed into a corner by the calendar before making a deal for Harang and/or Capuano, writes Buster Olney of ESPN.com (Insider sub. req'd). The idea behind that is to push the Dodgers to eat most of the money owed to the pitchers. Harang will make $7MM for this season and has a $2MM buyout on a 2014 option. Capuano, meanwhile, will make $6MM, with a $1MM buyout. In total, we have 18 pitchers that could be on the Big club this year. They are below. If we allow Guerra, Wall, Tolleson, and Paco to go back down for awhile, we are at 14. The magic number is usually 12. However, 13 is still doable given our bench options. If Belli or Guerrier has a mysterious DL stint, we are at 13. We are then in more of a position to negotiate for decent return. If the Dodgers were to leak that they plan on going with whomever is left over in the pen, it could motivate some team to trade early in order to stretch out that pitcher as a starter rather than reliever. I do not mind eating the contracts. We have the cash. However, I do not want to eat cash and not get anything of value in return. Another option is trading Guerrier (if he has any value) or Howell. There is some irony in that we now have an extra lefty. As far as where each will be slotted, I have a feeling, that if we keep the current group (and go with mysterious DL thing), we are looking at a rotation of Kershaw/Greinke/Beckett/Lilly/Bills --only to get another lefty in the middle of a series. Capuano, Ryu, and Harang to be moved to 6/7 guy. I really do not care what Harang says, he wil do what is asked. Kenley Jansen Ronald Belisario Brandon League Matt Guerrier Shawn Tolleson Paco Rodriguez Stephen Fife JP Howell Javy Guerra Josh Wall Clayton Kershaw Chris Capuano Josh Beckett Aaron Harang Hyun-Jin Ryu Chad Billingsley Ted Lilly Zach Greinke
Given the recent questions regarding Bills and Greinke, I for one am glad we have extra options. Going with the aforementioned: We stared the season with the following 25: Kemp/Ethier/Ellis/Ellis/AGon/Hanley/Cruz/Hairston/Uribe/Schumaker/FedEx/Punto Kershaw/Beckett/Bills/Ryu/Greinke/Lilly/Harang/Capuano/Jansen/Bellisario/League/Howell
so you're "not really sure" about being willing to go on the dl or down to the minors? well then how about pitching better you fucken punk who the fuck do you think you are? so sick of harang and now this cunt with their "me first" attitudes and conversely... i really respect and admire capuano for saying he wanted to be part of this team and would do whatever was asked of him he obviously gets it he's not a star -- never was, never will be -- but he has the chance to be a part of something special and wants to be here for the long haul in whatever capacity problem is, he's also probably the most desired of the three but back to you, ted tell you what, if you truly "[want] to pitch for the dodgers" then accept the role that's given you you're getting paid $12MM -- $12 fucken million -- and you're probably the 8th best starter on the team so shut the fuck up and do what you're told and you too harang you piece of fucken :angry:ullhair: Lilly among trio in search of new rolesBy Ken Gurnick, MLB.com | 03/27/2013 8:24 PM ETPEORIA, Ariz. -- Despite getting roughed up Wednesday for seven runs in 2 1/3 innings, Ted Lilly said he'd rather pitch out of the Dodgers bullpen than on a Minor League rehab assignment to rebuild arm strength.Chris Capuano said he'd rather be a starter, even though management seems inclined to put him in the bullpen.And Aaron Harang still considers himself a starting pitcher, but like his two teammates, is without a role on the team.After representing 60 percent of the Dodgers' starting rotation when last season started, the trio is sixth, seventh and eighth on a rotation depth chart of five. The season starts Monday and management hasn't worked things out yet.A trade of Harang or Capuano is one likely option, as both have been scouted by Seattle, Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Lilly will be asked to go to the Minor Leagues, but he can't be forced."At this point, asking me today, I'm not really sure," Lilly said about the disabled list. "I'd like to pitch for the Dodgers.""I don't think we feel like he's ready to start the season, through no fault of his own," manager Don Mattingly said of Lilly, who missed starts with the flu and had another rained out, all while coming off shoulder surgery.Lilly said his shoulder is fine, but his command isn't. He fell behind in counts against the Mariners on Wednesday, threw strikes and they got hit. He gave up six hits and walked three, his spring ERA climbing to 14.00. Lilly said he hasn't spoken to general manager Ned Colletti about his situation. The Dodgers are concerned that Lilly's shoulder needs more warm-up time than relief duty allows."As everybody witnessed, I need to be sharper than I was today," Lilly said. "This game has never been easy for me. I've always had to grind and make adjustments. Don't know why it would change now. For me, it remains the same. Do the job the best I can, prepare the best I can, and if I do that, I can leave knowing I worked hard and prepared hard." __
