DODGERS OFF-TOPIC Thread

Hey the Suns had a pretty good run until the last couple years when the owner decided to go all McCheap on them.

 

I know this it the Off Topic Thread, but talking about the Suns is pushing the boundary of what's acceptable.

 

This has no bearing on the current convo other than the talk about the Suns brought it to mind.

One of my favorite anecdotes from Readers Digest a thousand years ago was about two rival newspapers, The Sun and The Post. They were always one upping each other and made no secret of the contempt each held for the other. One day in an editorial response in The Post, the editor called The Sun a "yellow dog". The next day The Sun printed the following: The Post has called The Sun a yellow dog. The attitude of The Sun, however, remains that of any dog towards any post.

I still smile when I remember that.

 

Aren't they in a room with Barkley's championship ring(s)??

 

i remember going to see a cure concert in 1990 right after the us airways center was built. the only things hanging in the arena were the retired jerseys of paul westphal, connie hawkins and LMFAO alvan adams. now they've added some more including dan majerle LOL how lame is that?

 

I always liked Dan Majerle... but retire his uniform? seriously...

And Alvan Adams? WTF Really?

someone needs to explain what a hall of famer is to these sun baked brosario chasing people

 

I am a Suns fan and that is pretty lame but not as lame as Laker fans who say nothing but "Look at all our rings bruh!" for every argument. More often than not Laker fans sound more and more like Yankee fans. Not saying that any of you say that but just that a lot of fans do try to say that in any argument.

I am a Suns fan but I don't really hate the Lakers. I don't like them, sure. But I don't waste my time hating on sports teams. I don't have time for that but I was actually hoping the Lakers would have won another title with Dwight Howard and Nash last year but holy shit they were pretty terrible last year and just didn't gel very well.

How about that Clippers-Lakers game last night?? Dumb fucks at TNT decided to show that game instead of the Suns/Thunder game which was a fantastic game and a great win for the Suns! :thumbsup:

 

Losing by 48... shake my head...

That is about coaching and effort right there.

Of course the game sits on my DVR unwatched because I had class last night.


Fortuitously

 

Yeah, you could argue Nash's numbers were inflated a bit and he may have been overrated. You also have to consider that the NBA is now dominated by the style of play from those Suns teams and still Nash's numbers from those Suns years have few comparisons. Also, that offense was not just a gimmick. Those Suns teams dominated during the regular season and also had some nice playoff runs. I remember he used to give me nightmares whenever we played the Suns but he was also such a pleasure to watch. It was like watching Peyton Manning. Total control of the offense and flawless execution. Winning 2 MVP's is hard to live up to unless you are a top all-time great. So, sure, his numbers may have been a bit inflated from past generations but he was still a great player that deserves respect. To me, the thing that hurts his legacy the most isn't the offense he played in but his bad defense. His baseball comparison would be like a Manny Ramirez(steroid era inflated numbers, terrible defense)...if he was one of only five defenders on the field and teams could choose to attack him every play, compounding the issue. lol

 

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Malaysia Airlines plane crashes in South China Sea with 239 people aboard: report

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KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew crashed in the South China Sea on Saturday, Vietnamese state media said, quoting a senior naval official.
The Boeing 777-200ER flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing had been missing for hours when Vietnam's Tuoi Tre news quoted Admiral Ngo Van Phat as saying he had asked boats from an island off south Vietnam to rush to the crash site.
If the report is confirmed, it would mark the U.S.-built airliner's deadliest crash since entering service 19 years ago.
Malaysia Airlines had yet to confirm that the aircraft had crashed. It said earlier in the day that no distress signal had been given and cited early speculation that the plane may have landed in Nanming in southern China.
Flight MH370, operating a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft, last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu, Malaysia Airlines chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said in a statement read to a news conference in Kuala Lumpur.

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Malaysia and Vietnam were conducting a joint search and rescue, he said but gave no details. China has also sent two maritime rescue ships to the South China Sea to help in any rescue, state television said on one of its microblogs.
"We are extremely worried," Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters in Beijing before the Vietnamese report that the plane had crashed. "The news is very disturbing. We hope everyone on the plane is safe."
The flight left Kuala Lumpur at 12.21 a.m. (11.21 a.m. ET Friday) but no trace had been found of the plane hours after it was due to land in the Chinese capital at 6.30 a.m. (5.30 p.m. ET Friday) the same day.
"We deeply regret that we have lost all contacts with flight MH370," Jauhari said.
Malaysia Airlines said people from 14 nationalities were among the 227 passengers, including at least 152 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, 12 Indonesians, six Australians and three Americans. It also said a Chinese infant and an American infant were on board.
If it is confirmed that the plane has crashed, the loss would mark the second fatal accident involving a Boeing 777 in less than a year and by far the worst since the jet entered service in 1995.
An Asiana Airlines Boeing 777-200ER crash-landed in San Francisco in July 2013, killing three passengers and injuring more than 180.
Boeing said it was aware of reports that the Malaysia Airlines plane was missing and was monitoring the situation but had no further comment. The flight was operating as a China Southern Airlines codeshare.
An official at the Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam (CAAV) said the plane had failed to check in as scheduled at 1721 GMT while it was flying over the sea between Malaysia and Ho Chi Minh city.
(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard, Jonathan Standing and Natalie Thomas in BEIJING, Nguyen Phuong Linh in HANOI and Alwyn Scott in NEW YORK; Writing by Paul Tait; Editing by Mark Bendeich)

 

Just tragic. What a disaster. Thoughts are with all the victims families. Sad sad news

 

I'm flying to Australia in two weeks and something always happens just before I have a flight out somewhere. You never want to hear or read about something like this. Just horrific. Sucks man. I remember talking not long ago to someone about Malaysia airlines cause I have no experience with them and they told me they have a pretty bad track record and to avoid them.

 

With modern technology how does a 777 simply disappear?

 

maybe the pilots ditched it in the ocean on purpose like that egyptian airliner in 99. they were named ahmed and hamid. just saying.

 

C'mon now. Those are just a couple of average names. Can't draw any conclusions from that. Let's not pretend every arab is evil.

What am I doing? I told myself I would stay out of any racial or political debate....I'm only human...lol *post*

 

well we do have statistics to look at. no one ever says EVERY arab or muslim is evil. i have no idea why anyone ever uses that as an argument. if it was terrorism the chances are...nevermind.
its also verified that two unidentified individuals were aboard that flight w stolen passports taken in thailand.
the debris field will tell the story. if its say 10 miles wide its likely an explosion at high altitude.
if its small the plane went straight down and the pilots would have had to turn off the transponder manually since there is no recording of the rapid descent.

 

Hopefully they find the wreckage soon to fully investigate and give closure to the families. The only reason I point out that not every arab is evil is because I find that way of thinking to be disturbingly common around the internet...and you DID strongly suggest that the pilots were terrorists just going off of their arabic names . I just feel that a lot of people don't understand that the arab people are no different than any other people in the world. 99.9 percent of the arabs we capture and/or kill are not suicide bombers, they are soldiers fighting for their country or they are civilians. The soldiers are referred to as "insurgents" in the media, which is made to be synonymous with "terrorist", which is in turn made to be synonymous with pure evil. In other words, we as Americans are neck deep in propaganda that demonize the arab soldier as evil and sub-human. Which makes it easier for our soldiers to accept killing them in large numbers on their own land. It is a very common yet very dangerous practice that, any student of history will be quick to point out, has led to countless mass killings and genocide. So, please excuse me for jumping in if I sense any bit of that sentiment. I'm not accusing you of feeling that way but I would hate for you to be swayed in that direction as so many have. Just trying to do my part to spread, what I feel is, a positive and truthful message. I would feel guilty myself if I didn't jump at a chance to do so . I hope you understand where I'm coming from. I don't want to see my country plunged in to a web of hate and lies like so many other countries before...most recently around the 1940's.

 

check it out i'm glad you aren't a ghost of dsp past and i think i can tell that by your words
heres the thing. i'm not going on assumptions. if you think all is on the up and up in the arab world then prepare for your rude awakening because it is surely coming.
i count the only wife i ever had being married to riswan sayed hamid mohammed mowlana. look it up. i have been immersed in the culture you pretend to understand as 99.9 percent pure.
countless mass killings and genocide? yeah the muslim world has that down. They kill their own and will sell out their brothers for spit. I've seen it you imagine it.

here is the pos that stole millions and millions of dollars in US donated money intended to help the tsunami victims of sri lanka. look up the story if you care. he is a well respected member of CAIR in washington. believe me no one gaf.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rizwan-mowlana/3/b74/a12
btw i have documents w 4 differetnt ssns for him that i have taken to the FBI on wilshire blvd to no avail. these people are a dime a dozen in the muslim community.

 

I don't think they are 99.9 percent pure, just that 99.9 percent that are killed are not suicide bombing terrorists as is the common misconception. I totally get that the culture in those countries is pretty brutal and despicable at times. I also understand that there is no effect without cause. I don't think the cause for their behavior has root in their DNA. They are extremely impressionable humans just like the rest of us. They are a product of their environment. Now, please also understand that the U.S.(and other countries) is far from innocent in helping to create that environment. Our foreign policy towards arab nations has been extremely violent and subversive for at least the past sixty years. In, fact many ex intelligence and ex pentagon officials and executives will readily admit that the modern "terrorist" movement is blowback from our policies starting at the latest back in Iran in the 50's and the trend continues today. We have installed many a brutal and violent dictator and/or have manipulated the natural resources in to the hands of American companies. Resulting in many arab countries staying in a constant state of oppression and poverty. Even in the U.S. you will find the relation between poverty and terrible behavior. Now make that poverty 10 times worse, take away the education system and install a brutal dictator and a completely corrupt police force and I think you can imagine a lot instability, conflict and just terrible and nonsensical things happening. What would the state of their countries be without constant U.S intervention for the past 60-70 years(the same time frame in which most countries made huge leaps in infrastructure and civil policies)? I don't think it is a stretch to say they were never given much a chance to find out. Maybe we should wash our hands of any guilt and just leave them alone. The truth is though, we have an empire to run and those countries provide valuable resources and strategic positioning for our military bases. Which was the goal all along. If anything, our rivalry and perhaps inevitable conflict with the Russians and maybe China, which has motivated our foreign policy since the 40's, is the most dominant influential factor for the happenings in the middle east. Not the arab people themselves, who have basically been kept powerless. So before we act as judge, jury and executioner of the arab people, we need to realize that their predicament is more of a natural progression provided the circumstances, and not something unique to them because of who they are as people.