The 2012/13 Offseason Thread

Seems like a good move, just not sure their is a spot for him.

Jansen
League
Belisario
Howell
Paco/Elbert
Guerrier
Guerra

are all virtually guaranteed spots.

 

Don't forget Paco, Tolleson and Hawk as well. Our BP is good and deep as fuck.

 

Not sure Guerra's guaranteed a spot.

 

darenn rovell says now time warner leads for the tv deal rights.
the Lakers thing was a nightmare I don't want to go through this shit again

 

Their is a chance it could be the same channel, because the sports are almost opposite seasons.

 

yeah, I'd say the last bullpen spot is up for grabs, and who knows who will stay healthy.

 

http://www.mikesciosciastragicillne...gers-take-advantage-of-todays-big-trade/15504

Mike P. suggests trading for Casper Wells from the Mariners who have a crowded outfield and a need for starting pitching...also to claim George Kottaras if no one before us does. Both great ideas imo

 

A.J. Ellis and Belisario avoid arbitration.

1 year, $2M for Ellis and $1.45M for Belisario.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/...ml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

 

The Shredder had Jansen at the 7th best reliever in baseball and Mitch Williams of course shitted all over it because of saves.

 

Who was #3? Price?

 

Greinke at #4?! Wow... I hope they are right because that would be sweet!

 

You're sweet.

 

Plaschke whines...

BILL PLASCHKE
Dodgers should not be leaving Don Mattingly in limbo
Manager says his request for the team to pick up an option year in his contract beyond this season was turned down, so his job could be in jeopardy if the club with the $200-million payroll struggles.​

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Manager Don Mattingly tries to catch a foul ball during a game last season at Dodger Stadium (AP)

By Bill Plaschke
January 19, 2013, 4:00 p.m.

On the third Saturday in January, the thermostats in the quaint river city of Evansville, Ind., read 53 degrees. But in the winter home of Don Mattingly, the temperature was the same as it has been throughout the off-season, that being quietly boiling.

The Dodgers manager's most compelling experience in the last six months did not involve the hours of front-office negotiations that eventually handed him the most expensive team in baseball history, but the 30 seconds in which he was told he was not yet assured of managing them beyond this season.

Last fall, Mattingly politely asked the club to exercise its one-year option before this final year of his contract. The Dodgers politely refused. He will thus begin the summer as a lame duck, except nothing about Donnie Baseball is ever lame, so let's just say he will be paddling upstream in a situation that could get absolutely daffy.

"It was a 30-second conversation about the option, they said that wasn't the plan for me or my coaches, it was a moot point, and I'm fine with that," Mattingly said in a phone interview. "But you would have liked for them to pick up the extensions so the players could be shown confidence. You never want it to be like, after a couple of bad games, people are saying, 'Oh, are they gonna change managers now?"

A couple of bad games? Mattingly's leash might not be that long. With a projected opening-day payroll of more than $200 million, twice as much as most other teams, the Dodgers will carry the highest expectations in the game. Virtually all of that weight will descend upon the manager, whose strong clubhouse leadership amid the off-field chaos of his first two seasons has nonetheless failed to get them into the playoffs.

If this year's Dodgers team of Kemp and Kershaw and Gonzalez and Crawford and Greinke doesn't rise up, somebody is taking a fall. By not picking up his option, the Dodgers are making it official it's going to be Mattingly.

Is that fair? Even Mattingly acknowledges it is, saying, "If I don't get my guys to play well, it's on me, it's my fault."

But is it smart? In a clubhouse filled with rich and entitled athletes who will lose nothing by pointing fingers and making excuses, maybe not so much.

You're willing to make a six-year commitment worth $62 million for a pitcher — Hyun-Jin Ryu — that General Manager Ned Colletti has never seen in person, yet you won't stabilize the clubhouse with a one-year commitment that could force you to eat around a million bucks in manager's money? Isn't that stepping over common sense to get to extravagance? This team's narrative should be based on Kemp's swing or Crawford's speed or Kershaw's curve, not Mattingly's job.

"I've played many years on a one-year contract, so I'm good, but the one area you have to deal with is the questions you're asking me now," Mattingly said. "That's a potential distraction for my club. That becomes part of the story line. My job is to cut out all the noise for these guys. That noise can get us away from playing our best baseball."

Colletti, who was smartly given a multiyear extension in the fall, says he's not hearing any noise.

"There shouldn't be anything read into that, it shouldn't be an issue," he said of the failure to pick up the option. Mattingly "knows how close we are, he knows how we feel about it, and it will be addressed at some point, I just can't tell you when."

Colletti added that "We're in a good place, we get along, we respect each other, it will all get worked out."

A good place, perhaps, but with no security for the dugout boss it will be an increasingly uncomfortable place. Mattingly isn't only on baseball's warmest seat, but he is also facing one of its bumpiest rides.

"We're gonna be the bad guys, we're going to come into every stadium as the bad guy," Mattingly said. "If we win, we're supposed to play good. If we lose, we're a bunch of spoiled guys, everyone playing the blame game."

Mattingly said he's not going to run from this perception, or the idea that with Dodgers owners wanting quick return on their investment, every game could be his last.

"I won't manage scared, and I don't want my players playing scared," he said. "You can fight the perception or say that's the way it's going to be boys, accept it, don't listen to the noise, just go out there every night and attack."

Even off the field, Mattingly wants to act as if he is going to manage the Dodgers forever. He is flying to town this week to be host of his first local charity function, Thursday night at the Sports Museum of Los Angeles. Typical of Mattingly's style, it won't be a gala dinner, but a comedy cocktail party hosted by George Lopez. Mattingly's charity is just as unadorned, a foundation that essentially buys baseball gear for needy kids.

"I did a clinic out here with some inner-city coaches, and they said their biggest issue was that they don't have any gloves for the kids, and I thought that was crazy," he said. "Baseball is a game of pitch and catch, and you can't catch without a glove. I think about all the lessons in life I learned through baseball, I want kids to have that same chance."

You can buy tickets on Dodgers.com. You can watch Mattingly learn even more of those lessons of life this season in a Dodgers dugout that will be sweltering. He says he only hopes his players have spent the winter watching another highly touted Los Angeles team struggle.

"Did we learn from the Lakers so far? That's a good lesson for us," he said. "They put a super team together, and so far it hasn't worked."

A super team that, incidentally, fired its coach after five games.

"Let's learn that lesson and don't do that," Mattingly said, and he may have been laughing, but it was hard to tell.​

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But of course DBB should have his job on the line this season. They will either play for him or wimp out like a bunch of assclowns like they did in FLA and BOS. Way too much on the line here.

 

Below is the Dodgers' 40 man.

Los Angeles Dodgers 40-man Roster
# Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
Steve Ames R-R 6'1" 205 Mar 15, 1988
61 Josh Beckett R-R 6'5" 225 May 15, 1980
51 Ronald Belisario R-R 6'3" 245 Dec 31, 1982
58 Chad Billingsley R-R 6'1" 240 Jul 29, 1984
35 Chris Capuano L-L 6'3" 215 Aug 19, 1978
57 Scott Elbert L-L 6'2" 225 Aug 13, 1985
59 Stephen Fife R-R 6'3" 220 Oct 4, 1986
21 Zack Greinke R-R 6'2" 200 Oct 21, 1983
54 Javy Guerra R-R 6'1" 200 Oct 31, 1985
55 Matt Guerrier R-R 6'3" 195 Aug 2, 1978
44 Aaron Harang R-R 6'7" 260 May 9, 1978
J.P. Howell L-L 6'0" 190 Apr 25, 1983
74 Kenley Jansen S-R 6'5" 260 Sep 30, 1987
22 Clayton Kershaw L-L 6'3" 220 Mar 19, 1988
31 Brandon League R-R 6'2" 210 Mar 16, 1983
29 Ted Lilly L-L 6'0" 190 Jan 4, 1976
Matt Magill R-R 6'3" 190 Nov 10, 1989
75 Paco Rodriguez L-L 6'3" 215 Apr 16, 1991
99 Hyun-Jin Ryu R-L 6'2" 215 Mar 25, 1987
38 Shawn Tolleson R-R 6'2" 220 Jan 19, 1988
46 Josh Wall R-R 6'6" 220 Jan 21, 1987
68 Chris Withrow R-R 6'4" 220 Apr 1, 1989

# Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
17 A.J. Ellis R-R 6'3" 215 Apr 9, 1981
52 Tim Federowicz R-R 5'10" 215 Aug 5, 1987

# Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
47 Luis Cruz R-R 6'2" 220 Feb 10, 1984
14 Mark Ellis R-R 5'10" 190 Jun 6, 1977
23 Adrian Gonzalez L-L 6'2" 225 May 8, 1982
9 Dee Gordon L-R 5'11" 160 Apr 22, 1988
6 Jerry Hairston R-R 5'10" 195 May 29, 1976
7 Nick Punto S-R 5'9" 190 Nov 8, 1977
13 Hanley Ramirez R-R 6'2" 230 Dec 23, 1983
Skip Schumaker L-R 5'10" 195 Feb 3, 1980
Justin Sellers R-R 5'10" 155 Feb 1, 1986
5 Juan Uribe R-R 6'0" 240 Mar 22, 1979


# Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
49 Alex Castellanos R-R 5'11" 195 Aug 4, 1986
Carl Crawford L-L 6'2" 215 Aug 5, 1981
16 Andre Ethier L-L 6'2" 205 Apr 10, 1982
37 Elian Herrera S-R 5'10" 190 Feb 1, 1985
27 Matt Kemp R-R 6'4" 225 Sep 23, 1984
Yasiel Puig R-R 6'3" 215 Dec 7, 1990

The bolded group is already at 25. We still need a backup at 1st and CF. It seems apparent that Uribe MUST be cut and we MUST trade at least one starter and possibly two RPs. We just signed Moylan to a minor league deal with an invite. I could see him up quickly should the wheels on the wagon begin to show signs of wear.