Braun suspended for the rest of the season

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  1. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    and by the way, if I'm a drug dealer I say fuck yeah, let me sell some "whatever MLB calls steroids" to some ball players cause when MLB catches me, all I have to do is open up my computer and show them a list and I don't get anything bad happen to me and I'm dismissed from court, just need to agree to testify against the other guys.

    Who is down to start?
     
    doyerfan, Jul 22, 2013
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  2. VRP

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    Almost everyone in the know, and common sense, would indicate that he took this lying down due to the fact that they threatened him with much worse. And explain how 65 games is fair? It's a random number. Why not 64 or 66?
     
    VRP, Jul 22, 2013
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    I just really think all this money/effort into finding random drug dealers who deal who MLB arbitrarily determines is a "PED" is stupidly used and doesn't make sense in what they do allow. Such a double standard with other stuff, and they basically just go out and do wtv they want, whenever, without formal and fair rules/regulations
     
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  4. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    The writers did.
     
    doyerfan, Jul 22, 2013
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  5. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    Fucken - A!
     
    darth550, Jul 22, 2013
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    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    You got it

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  7. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    I'd be upset. Just like Manny. I was like...fuck, he fooled us all.
    But I wasn't mad at baseball. I was mad at Manny.
    And I'd be mad at Hanley and Kershaw too.

    Obviously Manny is different because he failed a test. But so did Braun.
    And you may think baseball only had a "list" and shouldn't be able to suspend, but the PLAYERS ASSOCIATION is "GRATIFIED" by this suspension.They obviously had evidence, he admitted it, and the players association accepted it.

    Again, I get where you're coming from. But I side with MLB on this.
     
    THINKBLUE, Jul 22, 2013
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    if there was 66 games left in the season then I'm sure he would have gotten suspended for 66. Seems like Braun reached a plea deal with MLB.

    Take the rest of this year off and lose minimal money compared to serving a suspension next year.
     
    BigDaddyKaine, Jul 22, 2013
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    Because PED's are illegal in the United States if I'm not mistaken. I understand you see a fine line here, but the line is going to be fine no matter where you place it - so why not place it where it is illegal and either known to cause longterm health problems or the longterm effects are not known?

    Putting doctors in the middle of a multi-billion dollar industry and asking them to police the situation is a dangerous game. When money is involved, health isn't always a "doctor's" top priority - otherwise they wouldn't be shoving sacks of silicone inside a woman's body 6" from her heart.
     
    BlueMouse, Jul 22, 2013
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    I'm not against suspending players for taking steroids. Well, I actually am, but that's not what I'm arguing here.

    My only argument is that the way this unraveled was shady and sets an extremely dangerous precedent. I know you probably understand that, I'm just clarifying for everyone else reading our conversation.

    And one last thing, those of you cheering this on, I'm gonna favor this thread for in a few years when this move right here along with the rest of this Biogenesis bullshit puts a halt in the collective bargaining agreement and threatens a season of Yasiel Puig's prime.
     
    VRP, Jul 22, 2013
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    I just don't want to go back and forth on this. I get where you're coming from.

    The league obviously had the legal means to do this. It was accepted. I'm done.

    Sometimes it has to get ugly.
     
    THINKBLUE, Jul 22, 2013
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    like I don't even care that its Braun, its not that I love him as a human or anything. But it just saddens me that this is what matters, this is how they are going to approach this, and the power MLB has. I mean, they are lucky that Braun/Arod are disliked as humans, so they get a lot of backing for it.

    Just really wish this was all handled differently and it didn't fucking matter and what mattered was humans playing baseball.
     
    doyerfan, Jul 22, 2013
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    DSP PED Co.
     
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    Players getting shady
    the league playing hardball

    Something tells me that if the players association is accepting this, the "list" has substance (pun intended)
     
    THINKBLUE, Jul 22, 2013
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    Is there anyone else? I can't believe that Braun is the only one???
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    HGH, for one, is legal with a doctor prescription. As are other things labeled steroids.. They are administered in surgeries to help but aren't available if you are a baseball player.

    And well doctors already are a huge part of the game given the constant amount of surgeries/medicals/supplements they already handle. I'd much rather put it in there hands than whatever MLB decides is legal/illegal.
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    I get it.

    BUT

    If someone goes behind your back, and does something shady, the evidence isn't always right there for you. You have to dig deep. Police shows may not be indicitive of what really goes on but you'd be surprised at how "shady" the authority has to get to retrieve the info. THe players made it shady. MLB had to get under the shade and investigate.
     
    THINKBLUE, Jul 22, 2013
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    I thought the reason people hate Braun and ARod is because of steroid connections? Otherwise these are two poster-children for MLB.
     
    BlueMouse, Jul 22, 2013
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    yeah i get why they had to go into the Braun case, I mean MLB was pretty fucking embarrassed. But I'm not specifically talking about his case, I'm just saying all in general. Get a better list of what is a "PED", and stop giving so much of a shit and putting in so much money to deal with drug dealers, and stop painting these guys as the worst in the world for there steroid use. I mean, it's a bit off to say this, but it shows MLBs priorities when they love to make bad guys out of Bonds/Arod/Braun and n oone thinks bad of the dudes who get DUIs/beat wives/etc.
     
    doyerfan, Jul 22, 2013
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    Not sure if it was the way MLB handled it or if it was the way the press, media, bloggers, comment writers mutated it. Oh yeah and the wonderful world of Twitter.
     
    TuborgP, Jul 22, 2013
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