DBacks/Dodgers Game Thread

Chad Billingsley: 8.67 K/9, 3.1 BB/9, 0.82 HR/9 (4.2 ERA)
Madison Bumgarner: 7.7 K/9, 1.8 BB/9, 1.01 HR/9 (3.27 ERA)


You tell me if you really believe Chad has pitched a full earned run worth worse than Madison Bumgarner. 339 babip for chad, 272 for bumgarner. Just throwing it out there. If you buy in in any capacity to the idea that the pitcher has limited if any control on what happens when the ball is put in play, you'll understand that his ERA does not accurately reflect his performance as a pitcher.

 

I might agree with another pitcher, and I respect the stats you are throwing out because there are merit and knowledge behind them. BUT, Billingsley....um....he's a pitcher who's eye test (watching him pitch) matches how many runs he allows. At least for me.

 

Hey Herrera, quit striking out all the god damn time you worthless piece of fucking shit.

 

Can someone explain BABIP por vavor? I know the higher it is, the unluckier you are if you're a pitcher; but what exactly is it?

 

We are far apart. I see runs cross the plate. It can be labeled 'simpleton' or just a simple evaluation of what is happening. I have a hard time reading numbers trying to defend the other team scoring. Not because I don't understand them. But because baseball is kind of simple. Pitcher's objective: Prevent the opposition from scoring. Bills doesn't do that quite well and you can tell by watching. We can't argue about that much any more, can we? I watch him pitch. I see poor performance.

Kershaw...you can tell what is wrong with him by looking. Watching. His slider isn't as effective, his release point is inconsistent, and he's giving up a lot of long balls. Simple as pie.

You really think I am HAPPY Bills is sucking. I blame myself for how I worded that but I wouldn't be fired up if I was happy about it.

 

lol at the umpire" "No way that was low" lol

 

Loney should be hitting a gapper there, not taking pitches.

 

Not always. People who say that are using it incorrectly, but it CAN indicate unluckiness.

Its batting average on balls in play. Overly simplistic explanation of why it matters - balls fisted over the 2nd baseman into right center. Simple fact that the pitcher gave up a hit doesn't mean he failed or made a bad pitch. Hits obviously lead most easily to earned runs crossing the plate, but the simple fact that it's a hit doesn't indicate bad pitching. That popular fallacy is why FIP (Fielding independent pitching) was invented, to put a number on the things that the pitcher is most responsible for, strikeouts, walks, and home runs.

 

Not being a 4-5 ERA guy shouldn't be an award. I have desperately wanted him to not blow every lead we give him too.
Bottom line is he is inconsistent. I see such talent stuff wise. But it hasn't panned out on a consistent basis. This guy was an All-Star. Then immediately tanks the second half of the season and was almost left off of the playoff roster. Will he ever be a consistently good pitcher?A pitcher you have confidence in?

 

Umpire BLOWS

 

lol he was just jogging

 

I think Rivera decides if he's going to swing BEFORE the pitch comes.

 

Just win tomorrow. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I took some concepts too far. I respect your opinions, as they DO make sense. My approach on Bills is more simple, and although I believe I am right (lol) it doesn't make you wrong.

We sucked ass tonight but Go Dodgers.

 

Yikes, bad loss.... we can range anywhere from .5 games behind to 1.5 games ahead at the start of the ASB. Not a bad place to be with Kemp and Ethier coming back afterwards.

 

Dodger talk is going crazy about Capuano not being an all-star
i like Capuano too, but geez. like 20 pitchers were snubbed too. they're acting like Cap was the only one snubbed