DBacks/Dodgers Game Thread

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    what?
    since when was he appointed leader?
    as for professional AB's, you could fault the whole team with 27 LOB
    I'm with Fordie on this; not sure where all the Rivera hate is coming from
    He's hitting .253 and, considering he hasn't hit in the .260's since 2009, that's pretty much what should be expected
    If you want to say he's overpaid, you're right
    but who's fault is that?
     
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    Agreed. The simple answer is that he's just not that good.
     
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    Agree all the way on the first two. I had this game in the books in my mind...figured at least we can't do worse than a split. Wrong thing to do, always. Especially in a year CK is struggling.
    I was going to post about Wallach's stop signs...I think they cost us at least one run. But then I thought, maybe I'm just not aware of the OF arms...the way Vinny talks, they are the best in the west. Maybe the best in BB's history! Then Kubel nailed Ellis with plenty to spare...so I figured: Dodger luck, as usual.
    As far as Ned being fooled though Fordie, c'mon. "A fool and his money are soon parted".
    Although not technically his money, he's been a drooling idiot over and over again. If Loney should fool him (I think James is gone, IMO), it would be miniscule compared to so many other crap moves he's made. I say give him 10 million to play late defense. yeah.
    Oh, and although Rivera's disappointing more often than not (BB is that way anyway), Uribe makes Rivera look like Joe DiMaggio.
     
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    James Loney has a higher OPS than Juan Rivera. And he plays shit defense. And has negative speed. He's horrendous.
     
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    That's ridiculous, his lack of proffesionalism? Seriously? It's more like lack of ability. He's an old busted up player. Yeah point out a bad game from him to prove your point. He's probably been involved in nearly 50% of our runs scored the last few months.

    You are expecting an AllStar. He's supposed to lead this crippled team? says who? You? He's supposed to be a bat off the bench and a part time player. Expecting more and bitching when you don't get it is ridiculous. Loney and Uribe should be leading this crippled team...not Rivera, yet look and see that Rivera is the best bat we have day in and day out. He is the guy that comes through more often than anyone else lately.

    Anyway, this forum is getting on my nerves lately.
     
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    Fuck yeah Irish...you got it right.
     
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    I don't get how you guys don't think him and Abreu are supposed to be leaders at a time like this. I wouldn't say Rivera is "busted up" either; he's like 31. Lol. Rivera played well for us last year and we needed him to come through during this stretch. I mean he's been alright, but I still feel like he doesn't have a plan up there sometimes. I wouldn't say I personally hate on Rivera; besides Abreu, he's the only other one I think that can do something in this lineup. IMO he needs better at bats.
     
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    As of right now Abreu and Rivera are our best hitters. That's why they should be leaders. They've been here before, they're veterans. They know about the ups and down. Yeah, I agree, they're supposed to be bench players; but they're not right now. Right now, they're the offensive threats on the team.
     
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    They could probably barely speak English. Probably hard to lead.
     
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    That's beside the point. Lol.
     
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    I don't think any of us will know how much of "leaders" Abreu+Rivera are, but if you want to go on results, it's easy to point out that since Rivera has been a Dodger, the Dodgers have been damn good. Same for Abreu. That probably has a lot more to do with others than them, but if you want to emphasize leadership and being good role models, then Abreu/Rivera have been here in good times.

    With that said, Rivera/Abreu should be bench players and the only reason they aren't is cause they play a position where the two best starters are down. It's being exploited how bad they are now, but any time a team has its two best OF starters (and two best hitters for that matter) it's not going to be able to just have someone come in and be good

    When it's all said and done, when this team is healthy Rivera is a bat to start against all lefties and off the bench against them, and Abreu is a good bench bat who can take a walk and hopefully hit a bit. They are a good platoon option but not everyday options like theyre unfortunately being used right now (just as every team would in this situation.. See: The Red Sox)
     
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    Isn't the leader that Donnie Mattingly guy? and those other guys... Wallach and Hillman and Lopes and Hansen?
    I DK know how much the team suffers from the lack of emergence of a leader from the ronks of the roster. IDK either if it's always the guy who is the best hitter. Vinny told us about HoF guys that barely spoke at all in one of his stories last night...
    The team needs to get a fucking hit with men on...at least it did last night. So much of this team right now is a bunch of bench players who have to go out there every night and play like they are starters...and they definitely or not.
    We bitch because we don't want to lose; but basically, you can't get blood out of a stone with these guys. They simply aren't that good.
    I wonder...who is the leader of the Dbacks, or the Giants?
     
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    I meant that Abreu and Rivera should be leading the team right now. I didn't mean to talk about their intangibles off of the field.
     
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    Why do we start that fat hog Uribe? I hate his face.
     
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    Hats off and thanks to JMac he beat the Giants today and gives us the chance secure being in first at the break.
     
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    Mcdonald is 9-3 with a 2.37 era, and a whip under 1. Glad we got Dotel though.
     
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    I have been told not to bring things like that up
     
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    Yup. I don't stress over not HAVING McDonald. It looked like it just wasn't gonna work out with us for whatever reason, and there is no way of telling he'd be doing this well in LA as he is in PIT. But we traded him for fcking Dotel in a year when we had no chance to even make the playoffs anyways? That's all on Ned man. Gave away a 2 time Minor League Player of the Year for us away for a mediocre reliever that we didn't need in a throwaway season.
     
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    The agony of Chad Billingsley...I hope this guy gets a fucking win tonight , finally.
    I don't now if I can take so many people hoping that he dies.
     
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    I was wondering...did you mean the Ned that is here indefinitely? That one?
    Just checking....
     
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